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vishnugupta ◴[] No.34491814[source]
I worked on Amazon Payments systems for quite some time back in the day. We took pride in being the best payment processors. Had direct connections with card networks, banks and what not. We even launched a PayPal competitor[1]. They launched a Square like device for physical retailers[2]. They invested some serious money in building and maintaining all of that.

However going by this news seems like Amazon has more or less given up on their payments ambitions. Could be also due to recent layoffs. This is a big news. Maybe Amazon wants to focus on being good at few things instead of running hundreds of experiments.

Edit: References.

[1] https://pay.amazon.com

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2015/10/30/amazon-kills...

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morpheuskafka ◴[] No.34493001[source]
I'm not surprised that they are giving up on Amazon Pay, as that never seemed to get much traction or customer recognition.

However, I am very surprised that they are abandoning their own first-party payments to Stripe. Don't you all already have the very best rates possible, directly negotiated by every bank? In other countries Amazon has even threatened to stop accepting cards because they couldn't negotiate the fees they wanted, and they are about the only merchant big enough to dare doing that.

I'm sure they won't be paying Stripe the standard 2.9%, but still--what value does Amazon get out of this? Stripe is supposed to make payments easy from both a coding and business perspective for developers. Everything Stripe does, from card acceptance to fraud handling to UX to ACH payouts Amazon already has working at large scale.

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1. cstejerean ◴[] No.34493685[source]
It's not clear from the announcement that they are giving up all first-party payments to Stripe.

> Stripe will become a strategic payments partner for Amazon in the US, Europe, and Canada, processing a significant portion of Amazon’s total payments volume across its businesses, including Prime, Audible, Kindle, Amazon Pay, Buy With Prime, and more.

That makes it sound like some things (and certainly a significant percentage of the total) will be processed by Stripe, but not all spend. For example it doesn't seem like normal purchases on amazon.com would actually be processed by Stripe at this time.