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This is an update to my previous post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34189717 . Stripe has resolved the issue and everything has been released. I told the contacts at Stripe that I would do a write up about what happened from my point of view to help them understand what happened to me. I figured it would be good to do that write up publicly to help both Stripe and potential Stripe customers understand what happened and how it was resolved.

Summary: Stripe put my accounts in review for a spike in sales on Cyber Monday. Throughout the month we received very little communication from Stripe and had many support chats and calls. Keep in mind that the whole time Stripe was still accepting payments on our behalf on all of these accounts. Each of the chats/calls asked us to upload the same invoices each time for review and gave us vague information that our accounts were being reviewed. Finally out of frustration I posted on HN about my issue. Thanks to @dang for getting a Stripe employee to respond and he was finally able to resolve the issue for me.

Overall this review process was pretty bad. Very little communication and nothing I could really do directly to move things along or get any real information. It took a random Stripe employee to get an email from @dang and post on HN in order to get this issue resolved. I’m lucky because I know about HN and know that Stripe employees frequent the site, but I don’t think HN wants to become the Stripe support forum.

Stripe you can do better. We all know that in order to scale you need to automate pieces of your infrastructure and communication. But, there is a balance between automation and manual review. When someone like me gets caught up in an automated system there needs to be better ways of letting support help that person.

See my comments below for actual details and dates.

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DevX101 ◴[] No.34233215[source]
I'm glad your issues were sorted, but I'm uncomfortable with the idea that you need to make a social media post to get a customer service issue resolved. This isn't just stripe. I see this with many other companies on social media. I don't post on Twitter, and I'd rather not put my account details for some service I use in a public forum.

It's starting to seem like for too many companies, resolving public complaints has become a line item in the marketing budget.

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Trias11 ◴[] No.34233481[source]
Customer support is a liability and every large company will allocate absolutely minimal possible resources to any liability.

This of course can backfire via social media into negative reputation and some repeated bad behaviors can landslide into class action.

But large companies are willing to accept such risk and will continue such pattern.

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butlerm ◴[] No.34234261[source]
$400,000 in withheld funds is not the sort of thing you should just place on the back burner and ignore while your client fumes. It is business malpractice, the sort of thing you could get sued over and be penalized heavily for, if not merely lose your customers and blacken your reputation everywhere. Businesses that do not resolve problems like this in less than twenty four hours deserve to go out of business.
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1. teraflop ◴[] No.34234578[source]
The great thing about holding $400,000 of your customer's money is that that's $400,000 they can't spend on suing you.
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2. hackbinary ◴[] No.34234918[source]
Absolutely not true. There are many lawyers that will take cases on a "no win, no fee" basis.

Clearly Stripe was in breach in this circumstance, and courts look dimly on that kind of behaviour.