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DeviantArt upsets artists with its new AI art generator, DreamUp

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125 points akeck | 1 comments | 13 Nov 22 02:33 UTC | HN request time: 0.357s | source
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ta8645 ◴[13 Nov 22 06:01 UTC] No.33580501[source]▶
Artists are no different than all the people who tried to destroy the cotton gin or the automated loom. We're all going to have to live in a world where these technologies exist, and find a way to live a fulfilling life regardless. Just as chess players today enjoy the game even though computers have surpassed our chess abilities.

It seems odd to complain that computers are using human's artwork to inspire their own creations. Every human artist has done the exact same thing in their lifetime; it's unavoidable.

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echelon ◴[13 Nov 22 06:21 UTC] No.33580588[source]▶
> It seems odd to complain that computers are using human's artwork to inspire their own creations. Every human artist has done the exact same thing in their lifetime; it's unavoidable.

Agree.

But you also have to treat code the same way. We shouldn't be suing Open AI and Microsoft over copilot being trained on open source code. It's no different than models trained on art.

Besides, if Microsoft loses, they actually win. I expect they're one of the few companies with enough code to train the model on completely proprietary data. If they lose the case, they'll still be able to build the tool. The rest of us will be locked out of easy training data and won't be able to compete.

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1. bbarnett ◴[13 Nov 22 06:41 UTC] No.33580668[source]▶
The rest of us will be locked out of easy training data and won't be able to compete.

There's loads of BSD code, and to share, all that is required is a link to attributation.

It seems to me, there is money to be made, in getting model data colinked with "saw first" references.

Then, for example, after a github style codebot writes the code for you, it can show a link to "where it learned to help you today!".

There is no technical reason the can't be done, only a business model reason.

That said, I find the comments in this thread strange. Discussion about how tech moves on, and looms and such.

That arg was lost, when people could cut up songs, and slap them together, or cut up 100 textbooks into one. This is settled by endless laws, and caselaw. It isn't a new argument. Microsoft will lose.