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158 points interesting_att | 3 comments | | HN request time: 0.824s | source

Hi Guys--

I started a Stripe account (even incorporated through them) for a basic graphic design and web design service business.

I process a few charges and even though I didn't get a single chargeback or dispute, Stripe decided to deactivate my account and said they would refund all the charges that were processed.

Which would have been fine with me. They said they would refund on Oct 17, but that date came and past. So I kept emailing.

Now they're saying they're holding all the funds for 120 days because of "elevated risk".

Which is insane because they have already withdrawn all the funds, meaning their risk would be zero if they refunded everyone.

I am beyond hurt and confused as I did need this money for my daughter. These decisions have real impacts on real families.

What do you do in this scenario? I have tried contacting support at Stripe but seems to be of no help.

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jjallen ◴[] No.33300912[source]
Sounds like they could be using your cash as funding.

If they hold a bunch of cash from people it is effectively theirs for that period of time. This could prevent them from needing to raise a funding round if done enough.

Some businesses are literally customer funded like these.

If you want to read more search for "negative cash operating cycle".

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1. edwinwee ◴[] No.33300951[source]
We don’t touch reserved funds (and don’t earn interest off them either). The funds are saved for individual Stripe accounts and are only used to cover refunds and disputes from their customers.
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2. JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.33301049[source]
> don’t earn interest off them either

Why not? You could use it to lower the cost of your services. (Someone is obviously earning interest on it. Better you than your bank.)

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3. bombcar ◴[] No.33301198[source]
Probably trying to avoid a conflict of interest. The magnanimous thing to do would earn interest and track it and refund that interest minus taxes to the final fund recipients- either the business or the customer. Might even be tax free if setup right.

Even the IRS does it.