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saberience ◴[] No.32769157[source]
It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all things pass in time, which makes my heart ache deeply.
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orobinson ◴[] No.32769695[source]
I feel the same. I think it’s because it really represents the end of an era. The 20th and early 21st century ushered in unprecedented improvements to quality of life in Britain but it has felt of late that that has peaked and the country is facing a serious decline: Brexit, the increasingly visible effects of climate change, the aftermath of covid, the possible break up of the union, rising costs of living, recession, possibly even war. The death of Elizabeth II coincides with the end of a long period of stability and comfort and is not only a poignant point in history itself but a marker for a transitional point in history for our country.
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foobarian ◴[] No.32771142[source]
I think humans have evolved to need rulers and hierarchy to look up to to some extent. Look at what happened to Americans -- once the UK royalty was gone it was replaced with celebrity. It's just human nature.
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jollybean ◴[] No.32772931[source]
The Queen is not a 'ruler' though, she's a figurehead.

Which is fully appropriate where it exists.

I would be 100% against the US having a 'Constitutional Monarch' but I'm 100% in support of the UK Constitutional Monarchy, given that it has come from their long established culture, nearly a 1000-year-old 'contiguous-ish' institution.

FYI in 1258 the Monarch signed documents which required him to 'Confer with Parliament' when changing rates of taxation. That's only 40 years past Magna Carta, and the first reference to 'Parliament'.

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jeswin ◴[] No.32775657[source]
Maybe it's ok to have a Queen, but I'm not so sure about Kings. Men in un-elected positions of power have very rarely done any good.
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pwgentleman ◴[] No.32776115{3}[source]
There are two (bad) extreme ideas: 1. Women are inferior and should never rule 2. Women are superior and can do no wrong

True equality comes when we realize both men and women screw up just as much, and have just as much good potential IMO.

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hypertele-Xii ◴[] No.32777244{4}[source]
But men and women don't screw up in equal measure. Biological specialization between the sexes has led to men taking greater risks.
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1. dwighttk ◴[] No.32777936[source]
A risk not hazarded can be a bigger screwup than the other way around.