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TazeTSchnitzel ◴[] No.32641381[source]
It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.
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commandlinefan ◴[] No.32642265[source]
> such a bland, un-subversive show ... is so heavily censored

American censorship is honestly no better, it's just that the show was written with the specifics of American censorship in mind.

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function_seven ◴[] No.32642424[source]
Bullshit.

Sorry, this "we're the same" retort is exhausting. The United States government does not employ censors to remove portions of shows before allowing them to air (or stream, whatever). The closest thing I can think of is DoD not giving access to a movie unless it paints Navy pilots in a certain light. Okay, fine. Not nearly the same as what this site is showing us.

Yes, we have cultural taboos, like any culture. Studios have more trouble presenting some viewpoints over others. Chappelle gets protested, that one episode of Community was memory-holed on Hulu (but not on Amazon!). We ban pornography on public airwaves (but not on streaming or cable or satellite, or Blueray).

If you compare and contrast the pervasiveness of censorship between China and the United States, the difference is huge.

When it comes to artistic freedom, the US is way better than China. Maybe you can say we can improve even more, sure. But that's a long way off from our censorship being "honestly no better".

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briantakita ◴[] No.32642551[source]
Not Bullshit. If the Government & Corporations care so much about others censoring, they should lead by example. Lectures by hypocrites will otherwise be ignored...even if the censorship that you may like is categorized as being justified by you. If you don't like China's censorship policies, then appeal to China's sensibilities as their censorship is categorized as justified by them. Otherwise, the Chinese government will simply point out that lectures from hypocrites have no bearing.
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function_seven ◴[] No.32642678[source]
Let me make this simpler.

The 100 most popular movies produced in China are completely fine to stream in the US. Not a single scene or phrase is removed by our government before allowing us to watch them. Same with music, TV, books, and art.

The reverse is not even close. Can you give me a Western example that is analogous to Tank Man, or to Winnie the Pooh?

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briantakita ◴[] No.32642793[source]
I don't think Julian Assange among other whistleblowers who are punished for speaking out about the Western hegemony's actions care too much about the Big Bang Theory's episodes in China...same with most of who are censored by YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc for political reasons. Practice what you preach or what you preach has no credibility.

The global south & many westerners are tired of the lectures coming from the NeoLiberal Democracies & it's easy for them to identify a long list of hypocrisy.

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function_seven ◴[] No.32642887[source]
I agree with you that Julian has been targeted for political reasons. I can type this on a US site with absolutely no fear of repercussions. I practice what I preach. I also think our treatment of Guantanamo Bay prisoners is unconscionable. I openly criticize my own government all the time. And not a single post or comment has ever been removed by that same government.

By the way, here's the (uncensored) leaks from Julian: https://wikileaks.org/afg/

Edward Snowden really exposed the NSA almost 10 years ago. Yet I can still access the PowerPoints and other materials he leaked. They're on Wikipedia! That's like, the opposite of censored. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM)

Can you make a statement about Tank Man, or Xi's resemblance to Winnie the Pooh, or Peng Shuai and her accusations? Do it on WeChat. Let me know how that goes.

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1. dang ◴[] No.32697148[source]
Please do not break the site guidelines yourself, regardless of how bad another commenter's posts are or you feel they are. It only makes everything worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html