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Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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lapcat ◴[] No.32655071[source]
The United States didn't do enough to help Russia transition to democracy in the 1990s. There was no "Marshall Plan" after the Cold War like there was after World War II. This was a huge mistake, and we see the consequences now, with Russia having turned back toward totalitarianism and imperialism. Sadly, it seems that Gorbachev's efforts were mostly for naught. But it was courageous at the time to open up the Soviet Union to glasnost and perestroika.

Of course Yeltsin was a big part of the problem too.

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paganel ◴[] No.32655805[source]
> There was no "Marshall Plan" after the Cold War l

There was such a plan, at least in the twisted minds of the people behind the Washington Consensus. They were calling it privatization or price liberalization or some other non-sense like that, thing is the common people got the very, very short stick (like my parents, who lost their jobs, their city apartment and who had to resort to literally subsistence agriculture in a matter of 4-5 years maximum; I'm not from Russia, but still from the former communist space) while some lucky ones from amongst us became entrepreneurs and business leaders. Also, most of the really juicy assets (like almost of all our banking sector, our oil resources etc) got sold to Western companies, but that was a given if we wanted to become part of the European Union and of the West more generally speaking.

Yes, I've started to become more and more bitter as the years have gone by, I'm now almost the same age as my dad was in the mid-'90s, when all hell started to economically unravel. Nobody had asked my parents, or us, who were mere kids and teenagers back then, if we were agreeing to the sacrifices that they were going to impose on us.

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calvinmorrison ◴[] No.32656318[source]
> Yes, I've started to become more and more bitter as the years have gone by.

I feel this. It's not much fun being a end of Millennial. Maybe other generations felt this getting passed over but in general my friends who are older than me by a few years have fared a lot worse than those who are a few years younger than me. Some punk song summed it up

    Where we'll sell you dreams then make you work for free
    They handed us an economy thats destined us for poverty
    Then have the nerve to call us soft and lazy for complaining
    Cause they're from a generation where you could be what you wanted to be
   But baby I'm a 90's kid
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1. deepdriver ◴[] No.32656746[source]
Male life expectancy at birth in Russia fell by six years between 1991 and 1994. A drop that fast was practically unprecedented in developed economies. It’s not fun being a Millennial, as I know firsthand, but nothing comparable to 90s Russia in the aggregate.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41294-021-00169-w

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2. calvinmorrison ◴[] No.32657459[source]
For sure, I was just commenting that it seems like sometimes generations get skipped. Pre-fall russians reminisce about the good times, people who skipped it entirely might see the better post soviet times, someone who got smacked in the early money making part of their career... less so.