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joe_the_user ◴[] No.32642764[source]
It's worth noting that American censorship in, say, 1960, was at close to the same level.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_censorship_in_the_United_...

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coryfklein ◴[] No.32643846[source]
Did the article imply somewhere that China is unique in it's censorship?

I personally tire of this pattern:

1. Article submitted to an international forum about X country doing Y bad thing

2. "Well the USA is just as bad, they also did/doing/will do Y bad thing"

Well yes, that is true, but people are voting up the submission because they found that X-doing-Y-today was interesting and don't care to rehash the history of the US every single time. YES the US has plenty of blemishes in its history. Yes it has censored, warred, raped, extorted, and imprisoned. Yes the US persists in directly doing some of those today, and through malice or ineptitude it fails to prevent others.

But the regularity with which this pattern repeats feels so much like state sponsored astroturfing I'm just tired of it.

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the_af ◴[] No.32644078[source]
> Did the article imply somewhere that China is unique in it's censorship?

I don't think it implies that, but to be honest, the general implication here on HN is that China is the current Big Bad and everything they do is uniquely bad. It's not spelled out, exactly, but that's how I read many comments here.

It may be just me, but that' s the vibe I get from HN in relation to China.

> But the regularity with which this pattern repeats feels so much like state sponsored astroturfing I'm just tired of it.

I think this is unfair. I also don't think you truly think people asking about US behavior here are Chinese agents. That's just silly. China hasn't infiltrated HN.

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1. coryfklein ◴[] No.32644756[source]
> I also don't think you truly think people asking about US behavior here are Chinese agents.

Maybe my thinking is misguided, but this is exactly what I think. China has an abundance of labor and a strong appetite to perform just such tasks.

> That's just silly. China hasn't infiltrated HN.

It's not like you have to "infiltrate" anything here, it's an open forum and China would need to do little more than pay 2 people to take rotating shifts and they have essentially full coverage to counter any content critical of the country.

Since the readership of HN likely holds much more power than the average American, I'd think China silly to not make that investment.

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2. trasz ◴[] No.32647693[source]
Do you also believe people shilling for US here are government agents?

Of course you don’t. You hadn’t been indoctrinated _that_ way.