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TazeTSchnitzel ◴[] No.32641381[source]
It's really interesting that such a bland, un-subversive show whose only mentions of sensitive topics are in bad throwaway jokes is so heavily censored. I guess a more interesting show would just not get aired at all.
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commandlinefan ◴[] No.32642265[source]
> such a bland, un-subversive show ... is so heavily censored

American censorship is honestly no better, it's just that the show was written with the specifics of American censorship in mind.

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function_seven ◴[] No.32642424[source]
Bullshit.

Sorry, this "we're the same" retort is exhausting. The United States government does not employ censors to remove portions of shows before allowing them to air (or stream, whatever). The closest thing I can think of is DoD not giving access to a movie unless it paints Navy pilots in a certain light. Okay, fine. Not nearly the same as what this site is showing us.

Yes, we have cultural taboos, like any culture. Studios have more trouble presenting some viewpoints over others. Chappelle gets protested, that one episode of Community was memory-holed on Hulu (but not on Amazon!). We ban pornography on public airwaves (but not on streaming or cable or satellite, or Blueray).

If you compare and contrast the pervasiveness of censorship between China and the United States, the difference is huge.

When it comes to artistic freedom, the US is way better than China. Maybe you can say we can improve even more, sure. But that's a long way off from our censorship being "honestly no better".

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briantakita ◴[] No.32642551{3}[source]
Not Bullshit. If the Government & Corporations care so much about others censoring, they should lead by example. Lectures by hypocrites will otherwise be ignored...even if the censorship that you may like is categorized as being justified by you. If you don't like China's censorship policies, then appeal to China's sensibilities as their censorship is categorized as justified by them. Otherwise, the Chinese government will simply point out that lectures from hypocrites have no bearing.
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1. ryanobjc ◴[] No.32642663{4}[source]
Absolutely wrong, the founders knew it, you should know it, everyone knows it.

There's a big difference between using the rule of law to shape what can and cannot be said or sold or published. Compared to different private publishers/agents/etc deciding what they wish to do. The marketplace solves the latter problem - and it has!

People are getting caught up in the "chicken" joke, but if you read the read of the article you'll see that crime dramas had to be re-shot so the "side of justice" wins in the end.

What kind of anodyne cultural bullshit is that? Only the good guys win - BY STATE LAW.

So absolutely not, the US and China are not even remotely the same. To suggest so is so ridiculous offensive it opens one up to accusations that they are a Chinese sock puppet... and it's a totally reasonable opinion to hold!

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2. briantakita ◴[] No.32642755[source]
You can call me whatever you want. I'm saying practice what you preach otherwise you're going to be written off as a hypocrite & your criticisms will not have credibility. Consider that political censorship has been increasing & becoming a criminal & economic matter in the West. Julian Assange is an example of a journalist who is held in detention without being charged for political reasons.

Do you honestly think that America & the West have integrity with the Constitution & the spirit of the Founders? If you do, boy do I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.