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xor99 ◴[] No.32462288[source]
Digital art is not permanently interesting. My sympathies go out to people who feel like they will lose some of their business. However, a group of developers has shown what was always true about digital art: its computational art even if you draw it because it is encoded digitally. In other words, it was always going to be reproducible and remixable.

The problem with being shocked by Dall-E, in my view, is that it shows an ignorance about the historical development of art and its incredible diversity of practice + the final productions and forms of art. OpenAI have sort of Warholised digital art in a way and that's just very standard in art history. People went crazy when Warhol productised art but in reality this was an overreaction and plenty more stuff came after that which completely different in its orientation towards art (e.g. something like Hans Haacke). Dalle-E is a system for producing digital art in the way that Warhol's practice was a system for producing visual art as a commercial product.

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goldenkey ◴[] No.32462434[source]
I think you're wrong. Pretty much all human creations can be encoded digitally to a high enough fidelity that the discretization process no longer is distinguishable.

And 3D printers for paintings exist, that can replicate brush strokes and other techniques, and they will only get better over time.

So there's very little left in the human arsenal as the AI generation and AI painting techniques both improve.

https://youtu.be/j-UGcGV4zzw

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1. notahacker ◴[] No.32463319[source]
Your link shows you can 3D print a "Rembrandt" if you hire a team of people to spend 18 months working on custom algorithms for it, and I doubt any art experts were as likely to actually be fooled by it as they were by a van Meergeren forgery.

Not sure the people selling paintings knocked out in an afternoon to tourists who visited their studio and chose to buy an original instead of the visually indistinguishable print for a fraction of the price have much to worry about...

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2. goldenkey ◴[] No.32464572[source]
Everything is originally bespoke before it is mass produced. Forgeries have gotten so much better than they used to be. I know antique dealers and they often rant about the job of recognizing reproductions having become significantly more difficult.

Like others have said, the first ones have issues, but late stage is when things get problematic.