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The Reason Why Are Trucks Getting Bigger

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1. neogodless ◴[] No.32425778[source]
Overall, I think between the article and the comments, we cover a lot of the reasons (plural) and I think it's a combination of many of them.

People want a vehicle that works for every (edge) use case they have, even if they forget that usage only comes around once every third year. The bed has to be big enough for plywood, the cab has to fit six adults comfortably, and so on. SUVs are popular for this reason. And beds are getting left behind because it really is an edge case for most to need a long truck bed, while having family ride in the crew cab is at least kind of common. Not to mention, having a crew cab and then a long bed makes for a truck so long, it's really kind of a pain to maneuver it. (Source: Briefly owned a "smaller" double cab Silverado with a 6' 6" (198 cm) bed and it was already ridiculously long.)

It's amazing truck rental hadn't become a bigger business, while everyone gravitated towards nimble, fuel efficient cars, but there has to be a reason for that not happening, and I don't think it's fuel regulations. Among other things, there's an addiction to convenience. Everyone insists that the vehicle in their driveway covers every possible use, instead of the daily uses only, because there's a 20 minute round trip in having to go pick up a rental vehicle for special cases.

All of this is interesting to me, as GMC will reveal the bigger 2023 Canyon later this morning. (You can look at the 2023 Chevrolet Colorado[0] now for a good preview. And for those unfamiliar, it's a "mid-sized" or smaller line of trucks, like the Toyota Tacoma.) The redesign is basically the Silverado/Sierra from 5 years ago and they've eliminated all but one configuration - crew cab and 5' 2" (157.5 cm) bed. No more regular cab, no "long"/standard box. In the car world, the most popular configuration has the best profit margin, so slowly any variations get eliminated by bean counters until only the very middle of the bell curve is left.

EDIT: Also wanted to add that these smaller trucks are much less popular than the larger versions. One reason is the obsession with specifications and capability and features. A lot of times the price difference between smaller and larger is small when you consider extra payload and towing (that only one in ten buyers actually needs), or that features X, Y and Z are included on the larger model but left out on the smaller. Gas mileage is also shockingly similar between the sizes. But in the end, I think too many people buying trucks look around, see that everyone else has full-size, and justify it for themselves, when almost everyone would've gotten their needs met with the smaller options.

[0] https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/2023-colorado

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2. bombcar ◴[] No.32426130[source]
There's also the up-sell - when you're looking at $x a month for a two door short bed, and it's only $y a month more for the crew cab long bed, and you might want to go somewhere with the family at times ...

Smaller car sellers should make a deal either with the dealers or with U-Haul or something - buy the small 4 seater car, get X days free truck rental per year.

My "dream vehicle" would be something like a cab-over minivan that was short as possible while still having towing capabilities; most "pickup uses" can be replicated by a trailer for those times.

3. snarf21 ◴[] No.32426178[source]
Agreed, I have that vehicle and it isn't quite so big as the monster pick-ups. I've had a SportTrac since 2001. The key thing is that is only has a 4.5' bed. It isn't jacked up and without a 6'-8' bed, it is quite maneuverable. I hike and camp and kayak and hunt and and and... The smaller bed is problematic when I do need plywood but it just gets strapped down instead. The big problem with this new Canyon that you mention is the height and width (which is only need to combat the higher center of gravity) and engine box of this monstrosity. People don't need an engine that big for this "mid-sized" truck because they won't be towing that big with it. It is definitely big for big sake. It must be that the profit margin is a LOT higher on a $60K truck than a $35K truck. One new truck that is combatting this a little is the new Ford Maverick. It is the same size as my SportTrac and TOPS OUT at $35K all-in. It is not jacked up or with an oversized engine. It is funny that it is quite smaller than the new Ranger which was always the small truck line.

The reason truck rental isn't much of a thing is the same reason people drive into cities with public transportation: time convenience. You can't go when you want and come back when you want when you are dependent on someone else. They want to "just go" without planning. Like you said, most people never use the truckness of their truck and it is a status/ego thing.

4. EricE ◴[] No.32426300[source]
Just look at the popularity of the Maverick and Santa Cruze - there is a significant demand for smaller (or dare I say, mini) trucks. Safety regulations caused the 80's mini trucks to start to die out - yet Mazda still produces the Miata and it (thankfully!) adapted to comply with updated safety standards over the years yet keep to the same basic size and weight with only minor inflation in size/weight over the last 30 years now, so manufacturers could likely do the same with true mini trucks like the old Nissan hard body if they wanted to.

But why bother? With the chicken tax limiting competition and car companies being able to make higher profit on larger, fancier vehicles why would they leave the extra profit on the table?

Mahindra was going to enter the US market, but eventually backed out for a number of reasons - the chicken tax was no doubt one of many factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax and https://carbuzz.com/news/5-amazing-trucks-the-us-can-t-have-...

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5. goosedragons ◴[] No.32428516[source]
How much is that price though? A Ford F-150 in 1980 cost about $5800. Adjusting for inflation that's about $22000 which is exactly where the Maverick slots in. It's also still bigger than a Ford Ranger of yore.