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supernova87a ◴[] No.32415390[source]
I greatly respect the initiative and scrappy-ness of someone doing this. And the legacy providers are clearly sitting on their monopoly position in a way that makes their pathetic alternative so starkly unattractive.

But isn't it also true that once his network grows above a certain customer base (and gets into the maintenance phase), he will start to see all the effects that eat into being able to do this cheaply?

Namely:

-- customers who don't behave as well or kindly as before

-- customers who need 24 hour customer service

-- maintenance that can't be done himself, and he has to employ people

-- customers and vendors who sue you for breach of contract, or other simply nuisance lawsuits

-- upgrading the network to the next technology requirement, or when he's unable to get 2nd-hand parts so cheaply, etc.

-- or a natural disaster that unexpectedly forces replacement of (and charging for) equipment that wasn't anticipated in the original subscriber price

Maybe none of this rises to the level of making it fundamentally different or unsustainable? But it seems to me the honeymoon phase doesn't last long, and it's got to hit some unavoidable realities soon. At least, if you think you can replicate this, it requires finding people and neighbors who are willing to do actual work and investment/concern to make something like this possible, and not simply pay a vendor a premium to phone it in. It must be treated like a neighbor-to-neighbor community project, not a faceless commercial transaction with its attendant obligations.

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1. kalleboo ◴[] No.32415516[source]
There are lots of ISPs that don’t suck
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2. samstave ◴[] No.32415676[source]
FblQ00Ho

That was my first ISP password assigned to me from San Jose based ix.netcom.com (Also the city I was grounded a month for running a $926 long distance bill calling into BBSs to play trade wars and the pit)

But the best ISP I ever had was a 56K dial-up in Seattle. To play Diablo.

I am looking to build an ISP.

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3. iforgotpassword ◴[] No.32417510[source]
It's like setting up a giant LAN party, but for grown-ups, doing serious grown-up stuff.
4. quercusa ◴[] No.32420214[source]
I feel old having to hear netcom.com explained.
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5. samstave ◴[] No.32420757{3}[source]
If you know my social and this netcom passwd, you may know my secrets...