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The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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userbinator ◴[] No.32234457[source]
What is to prevent school WiFi from one day requiring a Pluton assertion that your Windows PC hasn’t been tampered with before you can join the network?

Remote attestation is the true enemy of your freedom. The power of the authoritarian corporatocracy to force you to use only the (entire) systems they control. It's worth reading https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html again just to see how prescient Stallman was.

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acdha ◴[] No.32237069[source]
> It's worth reading https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html again just to see how prescient Stallman was.

I think it’s also worth asking why he didn’t have more impact despite pretty clearly seeing this problem. Part of the answer has to be resource disparities but I don’t think it’s just that - Linux didn’t really capitalize at all on Microsoft’s lost decade, and much of the innovation in security has happened on other platforms. I think there’s also some kind of blind spot in the open source community where a lot of people see this as something other people need, not them personally.

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underclocked[dead post] ◴[] No.32238476[source]
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the_af ◴[] No.32238594[source]
That's character assassination and it has nothing to do with Stallman's prescient warnings, which have proven more or less true. Also, Stallman != Linux.

Also also, his "rape" remarks have been mischaracterized but also came pretty late in the game, and had nothing to with with Linux's alleged lack of impact. Linux existed and was successfully deployed decades before any of these remarks.

I really expect better from comments on HN. This is tabloid level.

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1. acdha ◴[] No.32245492[source]
I don’t think it’s simple character assassination: the question isn’t just “did he have some good points?” but, critically, “why did those points not reach more people?” and that underscores the degree to which a leader for a movement needs social skills at least as much as technical. Having trouble connecting with people outside of a certain MIT CS bubble, making sexist jokes or - especially - being on the whisper list women use to protect themselves for 3+ decades, choosing not to participate online or in person in ways which are effective for getting favorable media coverage or direct reach, are (with the exception of the creeper allegations) personal choices anyone is free to make but not great for building a movement.

Even if all of the harassment claims are the social awkwardness his defenders claim, turning off that many people is a terrible way to build a movement. Maybe we say many open source developers are willing to overlook that, and there aren’t many developers deterred (citation needed, but let’s ignore that for now), but that’s still a problem if it means that reporters and people who are not developers say “this guy’s a weirdo” and that leads to skepticism or simply not investing energy promoting those ideas.