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The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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userbinator ◴[] No.32234457[source]
What is to prevent school WiFi from one day requiring a Pluton assertion that your Windows PC hasn’t been tampered with before you can join the network?

Remote attestation is the true enemy of your freedom. The power of the authoritarian corporatocracy to force you to use only the (entire) systems they control. It's worth reading https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html again just to see how prescient Stallman was.

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raxxorraxor ◴[] No.32236203[source]
Same with TPM and why it had so many critics. Some people still seem adamant to say that boot viruses are the greatest threat in the 21st century, but the economic interest are far more dangerous for general computing in my opinion. And it isn't even close.
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vanderZwan ◴[] No.32236517[source]
So basically, Cory Doctorow's "The Upcoming War Against General Computation"?

https://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-...

https://github.com/jwise/28c3-doctorow/blob/master/transcrip...

Don't know enough about the subject to tell if his "attempts to control general computation will converge on rootkits" prediction has held up.

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nibbleshifter ◴[] No.32237770[source]
> "attempts to control general computation will converge on rootkits" prediction has held up.

If you play video games, you probably have a couple of neat kernel rootkits installed as "anti cheat".

A lot of remote proctoring stuff for exams are looking a lot like rootkits too.

EDR/XDR is also just rootkits. For security. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a rootkit is a good guy with a rootkit, after all.

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mwint ◴[] No.32238622[source]
The remote proctoring stuff is downright dystopian. I bought an extra laptop to do tests; most people can’t do that and have to install this garbage on their daily driver.

Of course, I guess most people don’t care.

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nibbleshifter ◴[] No.32239072[source]
What's hilarious is it doesn't seem to prevent exam cheating in any meaningful way anyway, according to some students I've chatted to.
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1. mwint ◴[] No.32239207[source]
It really doesn’t. I took an exam in a meeting room at work with huge TVs on the wall… they made me show them the TVs were “unplugged”, so I just unplugged some random thing from the wall and they were happy.

The TVs are hardwired, it’d be trivial to have an accomplice show answers or whatever on them.