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jraph ◴[] No.30792928[source]
It seems fair enough. It won't prevent anyone from accessing the actual content and it probably makes it easy to justify paying something to MDN to employers.

In practice, if you are not paying:

- Bookmarks can most certainly easily replace the Collections feature

- you can clone the MDN repository for having the documents offline

- notifications could be computed from the commit log

and the subscription probably makes these features more convenient, at least for the notifications and the offline without actually removing rights from anybody.

Seems clever.

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ComodoHacker ◴[] No.30799516[source]
The only thing missing from this announce is the promise that all proceeds go to MDN and nowhere else, like subsidizing a failing product or paying C-suite bonuses.
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fckthisguy ◴[] No.30799748[source]
Ring fencing funds could be a real issue for Mozilla. They desperately need new revenue streams to support their primary product (the Firefox browser) since it's non- revenue earning. I wouldn't mind these funds going towards Firefox, or even other products woth a little reluctance, but agree they shouldn't go towards other costs like bonuses or "operation costs".
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cxr ◴[] No.30800846[source]
Where in the world did you get these ideas?

> They desperately need new revenue streams to support their primary product (the Firefox browser)

No, they don't. The Corporation receives almost half a billion USD annually—over 2.5x what they were bringing in 10 years ago (when they were supporting 20+% of the world's Web browsing; for comparison, they're now at <5%). And whatever they make from MDN Plus, it likely won't even be half of what they flush down the toilet on the marketing department every year.

> since it's non- revenue earning

What? There's a reason why Firefox is Mozilla Corp's primary focus, you know—because it's one of the few things that does pay for itself (and then some—most of Mozilla's adventures are funded by revenue tied to Firefox).

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Sakos ◴[] No.30801753[source]
Much of that is from Google. It makes sense to replace that and reduce that dependency on a single instance.
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1. cxr ◴[] No.30802377[source]
> I've noticed that moving the goalposts is extremely prevalent on HN, which makes for pretty frustrating conversations (or just reading). And then sometimes it's a tag team. E.g. [...] Personal A offers their response [to someone else, person B1]. Person B2 offers a second rebuttal that abandons the premise behind B1's rebuttal, and may actually be at odds with it.[...] It's like the cross product of a Gish gallop and a DDoS.

<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23117242>

The comment I wrote was a response to someone who staked their claim on the controvertible assertion that Mozilla "desperately" needs money as a result of Firefox being "non- revenue earning". (Not just being unable to cover the costs for their own existence, but straight up bringing no revenue whatsoever.) That's completely at odds with reality.

You can try to avoid the extant thread of discussion by mentioning something else that's true but irrelevant. At that point, however, it's a completely different conversation. Please don't do this.