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jefftk ◴[] No.30792694[source]
Everyone who's been saying "I wish they would just charge money for this", here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is!
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reitanqild ◴[] No.30793192[source]
I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway.

The big question is:

Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

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geodel ◴[] No.30793292[source]
What is that insane salary? Seems you have no idea about how much executives are paid at that level in general. Or for Mozilla everyone has to work for free?
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gruturo ◴[] No.30793508[source]
OP was clearly specific: EXEC salaries, not engineers and developers. And I'm not sure I would want their current execs there even if they indeed worked for free, not to mention at their absurdly high, grossly underserved salaries while they butcher the company all the way down.

So yeah, find me a way to finance Firefox only, and not the funny projects, and to ensure that not a single cent goes to their execs (neither directly nor through some creative accounting, where they reduce engineer salaries to offset the cashflow from this new stream, and pocket the savings), and you have my 10 bucks a month for the next 8 years (and possibly longer, but let's see what they do in 8 years). I won't move the goalposts and I'll make good on my promise.

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paxys ◴[] No.30793561[source]
The person you replied to was specific as well. Execs are paid well industry wide. If you aren't willing to pay market rates then you aren't going to get competent leadership to manage organizations at that scale.
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dorfsmay ◴[] No.30794208[source]
But Mozilla's revenue and market share went down since the drastic increase in execs' pay. Would that be acceptable in a for-profit company?

The usual counter argument in this type of discussions is that it's Google's fault, because they changed their sponsorship, and there's nothing the execs could do. And then the counter to that is why pay big salaries if there's nothing they can do about revenues. Back to square 0.

I wish Mozilla setup funds for each project like it was done for Thunderbird. Then the execs can be paid from sponsorships etc.. but I personally have stopped to give to Mozilla any money since that change happened.

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boomboomsubban ◴[] No.30794372[source]
>Would that be acceptable in a for-profit company?

If their revenue went way up, absolutely. Which is what happened when the executives got more money.

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hu3 ◴[] No.30794775[source]
what revenue? Without Google's half billion dollars per year they are dead.
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1. boomboomsubban ◴[] No.30795193[source]
In 2010 it was a tenth of a billion dollars. If any public company went from revenues of $120 million to $560 million executives would unquestionably get a raise.

And then when the revenue goes down to something like $400 million, you'd expect something like the CEO stepping down and the number of executives getting cut. Like what happened with Mozilla.