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password4321 ◴[] No.30284754[source]
> Question: do you use a different tool which require no maintenance or cost to run?

Answer: ZeroTier -- on Mac, Linux (home & cloud), Windows, Android

I actually setup DNS entries resolving to private IPs as configured in ZeroTier so I didn't have to login to dig them up but my default DNS provider won't resolve them. I guess newer ZeroTier versions optionally have DNS covered these days but I haven't looked into it.

IIRC, I tried both ZeroTier and Tailscale but at the time Tailscale did not yet have a simple setup to run as an unattended Windows service (and still does not have the equivalent for Mac). Being able to access a machine without staying logged in was table stakes so I decided Tailscale needed more time to bake.

Downsides I'm aware of:

- Less attention to their encryption implementation than the current hotness (WireGuard).

- Did not work with minimal effort from the local public library.

- Mac Activity Monitor shows unexpectedly high amounts of traffic even though I use it very rarely, it's not clear what's going on within that network. As in currently 100's of MB's I can't think of why would have passed through.

- It's 50 hosts + 1 admin per network for free, unlimited networks (unless you setup your own "controller"/proxy).

Re: access control brought up in another comment contrasting exposing only SSH vs. VPN connections, ZeroTier includes some off-puttingly complex access control configuration mechanism I will probably never look into.

Hope this detailed anecdata helps someone, I'm glad to be in a position to try to give back to the community by sharing my experience. Any other ZeroTier gotchas would be appreciated in case I have to dodge something in the future. I debated setting it up as permanent "route-all-internet-access-back-through-home-internet" VPN on my phone but was scared off by the complexity of setting up routing/bridging on the endpoint at home.

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1. artificialLimbs ◴[] No.30286831[source]
I tried using Zerotier a few years ago for personal devices/homenet (~10ish devices) and it frequently dropped/disconnected to the point I uninstalled. The Windows client was buggy/quirky and would get into a weird state where I couldn't click on a network to connect/disconnect properly and the app would have to be closed and client restarted before it would work properly again.

Ive since set up wireguard and use nginx for reverse proxy and haven't looked back. This has been rock solid, set and forget.