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password4321 ◴[] No.30284754[source]
> Question: do you use a different tool which require no maintenance or cost to run?

Answer: ZeroTier -- on Mac, Linux (home & cloud), Windows, Android

I actually setup DNS entries resolving to private IPs as configured in ZeroTier so I didn't have to login to dig them up but my default DNS provider won't resolve them. I guess newer ZeroTier versions optionally have DNS covered these days but I haven't looked into it.

IIRC, I tried both ZeroTier and Tailscale but at the time Tailscale did not yet have a simple setup to run as an unattended Windows service (and still does not have the equivalent for Mac). Being able to access a machine without staying logged in was table stakes so I decided Tailscale needed more time to bake.

Downsides I'm aware of:

- Less attention to their encryption implementation than the current hotness (WireGuard).

- Did not work with minimal effort from the local public library.

- Mac Activity Monitor shows unexpectedly high amounts of traffic even though I use it very rarely, it's not clear what's going on within that network. As in currently 100's of MB's I can't think of why would have passed through.

- It's 50 hosts + 1 admin per network for free, unlimited networks (unless you setup your own "controller"/proxy).

Re: access control brought up in another comment contrasting exposing only SSH vs. VPN connections, ZeroTier includes some off-puttingly complex access control configuration mechanism I will probably never look into.

Hope this detailed anecdata helps someone, I'm glad to be in a position to try to give back to the community by sharing my experience. Any other ZeroTier gotchas would be appreciated in case I have to dodge something in the future. I debated setting it up as permanent "route-all-internet-access-back-through-home-internet" VPN on my phone but was scared off by the complexity of setting up routing/bridging on the endpoint at home.

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viraptor ◴[] No.30284832[source]
Same, zerotier on everything. Router, laptops, servers, phone. It makes things very easy to connect without public addresses.
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carlhjerpe ◴[] No.30285877[source]
I want to love ZeroTier, but after wanting to contribute and reading some code I decided I'd rather use another VPN tech. Not saying it isn't good, but it was very incomprehensible and didn't look modern and nice, which the product should be.
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1. password4321 ◴[] No.30286596[source]
Thanks for sharing this insight, it's good to have even an inkling of how the sausage is made.