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biesnecker ◴[] No.30066616[source]
Seeing Night Watch at the Rijksmuseum a decade or so ago totally changed my view of seeing things in a museum vs. seeing them online. I'm a child of the internet and had this view that seeing it on my screen was good enough, but wow is Night Watch incredible up close and in person. Overwhelming, almost. A totally different experience.

That said, this image is amazing, and lets you see a lot more detail than you can easily manage at the museum.

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chriscjcj ◴[] No.30067760[source]
So very true.

Particularly true about the Sistine Chapel. This virtual view is outstanding, but can't possibly come anything close to seeing it in person. https://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.htm...

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defaultname ◴[] No.30068015[source]
I'm going to be the contrarian: Unless you're getting an exclusive viewing and you wake fresh with a singular goal, seeing the great art of the world is likely to be a compromised experience. When overwhelming beauty and art surrounds you, and a hectic schedule dogs you, everything is dulled and the experience becomes almost a fog. My experience going through the Sistine Chapel was almost an aside to just days of overwhelming artistry, so I gave it barely the respect it deserved. I've enjoyed and experienced it virtually magnitudes more.

A couple of years ago I did a trip to Belgium and France. Saw all of the sights, loads of museums, and did a tonne of wandering. It was a great time, but was overwhelming. I came home and maybe a week later we were browsing YouTube on the TV and came across a channel that just walks around neighbourhoods of Japan (e.g. Shibuya, Tokyo, among others. The channel is Virtual Japan). A couple of hours of walking a stabilized camera through the streets of a Japanese city. My son came in and watched with me while we looked at storefronts, read restaurant menus, walked through malls, virtually participated in pedestrian scrambles, etc). The weirdest thing is that days later my "trip" to Japan felt much more real than my trip to Belgium and France (or any prior trip I'd ever taken). Absent all of the worries and hustle and overwhelming inputs, somehow this completely not real experience felt much more real, and to this day I feel like I've been to Japan, while so many other countries that I've physically been to and experienced for weeks seem like almost a dream. It really was a fascinating experience for me.

It made me wonder if there is a business in on-demand telepresence for this sort of virtual travel. "Uber" someone technologically enabled to walk around an area, look at things you want and follow directions. Add some dystopian elements to it and soon they're getting in fights at your request.

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vmception ◴[] No.30068244[source]
Dating people from other developed nations than the US forced me to never do a rushed vacation.

They have weeks off of work and expect you to as well. They don't save up for 5 day trips across 3 day weekends to rush rush rush. They* just dip out and live in the different place for a while, take classes, get to know locals, etc. (*not everywhere has this privilege, but it is very common)

I’m never going back to the other way I just hang out with richer Americans. More people have been doing something equivalent over the last year, they're usually also richer Americans just still career focused as well, compared to trust funders.

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pmontra ◴[] No.30069296[source]
What you refer to is people relocating for work or study. It happens but it's uncommon.

Much more common is boarding a low cost flight on Friday night or Saturday morning, flying between 60 to 120 minutes and coming back on Sunday night. Add to that a two/three weeks vacation once per year.

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1. vmception ◴[] No.30069618[source]
I’m referring to statutory 5 weeks of vacation actually. Narrowing it down to developed nations with that feature.
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2. pmontra ◴[] No.30069892[source]
I realize that I didn't explicitly state that I was writing about my experience in Europe, as a European living there. The data points are me and my friends of multiple countries but mainly Italians.

There are (working) people who move to another place for many weeks but the vast majority of us does weekend tourism and 2 or 3 weeks vacations. Companies are not particularly keen to let one person go for 4 o 5 weeks. My personal experience when I was not self employed is that they don't like even 3 weeks in a single stint. The two longest vacations I had were one month long after I went self employed (hi Australia!)

I expect that working from home will make staying abroad for a long term more common, but it costs more money that staying at home (you're probably still paying a rent or mortgage) and it's usually not for families.