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warning26 ◴[] No.29828947[source]
Really interesting article!

On a related note, one oddity I often see online (and, once, in person) are the die-hard groups of westerners who insist that North Korea is actually a paradise on earth and any claim to the contrary is some kind of evil capitalist propaganda. Utterly baffling, when there are so many sources like this article indicating otherwise.

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1. germandiago ◴[] No.29829500[source]
I have lived in Vietnam for almost a decade. North Korea seems to be the equivalent of Vietnam before it started to open its economy in the 90s.

I can tell you, that is a hell, but what really makes me more angry about all this is how a leading class spoils people mercilessly and treat them as animals with no dignity. I am talking about North Korea for what I see in articles lately. But in Cuba there are similar patterns where everything is forbidden and corruption reigns with people trying to survive because some others decided they have to live like animals.

Vietnam is way waaaay better than NK and Cuba, even if it has its downsides, since its economy has been steadily opened to investment.

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2. vmception ◴[] No.29831651[source]
I think Vietnam is interesting since it is the same single party Communist country that we lost to, graduated to state capital system like they all do, has authoritative control over all facets of life and especially dissidents, but doesnt trigger anyone in my circles, doesnt appear in my news negatively, and is seen as a travel destination.

Kinda funny is that it really just means they are irrelevant as a competitor or market, and that none of us really care about governing systems or really care about imagining everyone is a victim because they lack self determination for their country, only competitors.

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3. germandiago ◴[] No.29832774[source]
Vietnam has in many aspects economy market, but yes, it is a single party country and we all know what that can mean.

However, it has been developing steadily. I am not american, btw. (I say so bc you say "we lost to").