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alufers ◴[] No.29703989[source]
Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker.

But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by the mighty DRM authors. And now the poor users of the TB-X505X will also have a degraded experience.

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carlhjerpe ◴[] No.29705496[source]
You're mixing terms up, you don't rip using a torrent or any other p2p protocol. You download things.

You know how Netflix only allows you to stream 1080p in most browsers? That's because they don't support the DRMs content providers use for high-res content.

You'll see webrips all the time with 1080p because someone can just record their screen and call it a day, but the 4k content is harder since the DRM prevents everything on your system from recording it.

Not sure if webrips are screen recordings or actually downloaded copies, but it doesn't really matter.

I have subs for D+ and HBO Max, if they're using DRM I for sure don't notice and don't care about it, I use either the app on my TV or the app on my phone to Chromecast and it's flawless.

While content not on these platforms that I've chosen to subscribe to requires me to go though more hoops to get the same experience.

It's not that the torrent experience is shit, but things like synced subtitles can be hard to find (requirement when watching with most of my friends and family) for example.

I'm part of a quite decent private tracker we'll call "TD" and while I have nothing bad to say about my experience there, I will say the things I pay for work better.

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kiwijamo ◴[] No.29706017[source]
> It's not that the torrent experience is shit, but things like synced subtitles can be hard to find (requirement when watching with most of my friends and family) for example.

Try out subdl[1]. It can work out the correct subtitles to download (based on a hash of the movie file apparently) and usually works well for me. I used to do this process manually but since trying out this tool I've been able to rely on it >95% of the time.

Don't assume the subtitles provided by the paid service are good quality. I've on a few occasions been unsatisfied by the subtitles provided by Netflix, and checked out subtitles from other unofficial sources to find these are much better. This is especially true for foreign language subtitles--the translations Netflix has is really poor quality for some shows and much better ones can be found elsewhere. One excellent example of this is the German show 'The Same Sky' which has terrible English subtitles that actually makes the shows unwatchable. The only consistently good thing about Netflix subtitles is that the timing is more or less correct.

Not sure about other streaming service as I don't generally use the others much.

[1]: https://github.com/alexanderwink/subdl

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1. jorams ◴[] No.29707158[source]
It's astonishing how bad Netflix subtitles can be. Random example: the music during the intro of the show Suits is Ima Robot - Greenback Boogie. The English Netflix subtitles show the lyrics for the song, but they are obviously incorrect. Weirder is that they are incorrect in a different way every single season. Seemingly the subtitles were created by a different person every season, each of them starting from scratch, each of them having trouble understanding perfectly clear sentences, and nobody bothered to check anyone's work.

Somehow the pirates get it right from the beginning, and consistently across all seasons.