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"Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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449 points bertman | 4 comments | 27 Dec 21 12:55 UTC | HN request time: 0.646s | source
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alufers ◴[27 Dec 21 16:43 UTC] No.29703989[source]▶
Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker.

But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by the mighty DRM authors. And now the poor users of the TB-X505X will also have a degraded experience.

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tomxor ◴[27 Dec 21 16:49 UTC] No.29704050[source]▶
Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother <insert conspiracy vs Hanlon's razor theories here> .

The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from these platforms anyway, just for the privileged of being able to watch what i'm paying for without being a blurry over-compressed mess, without having my device rooted by a third party, and not needing to be blessed with a consistent high speed internet connection.

I've said it before, torrenting today is as good as the experience of buying music on a physical medium in the 90s... you bought it, took it home, and played it in fully quality uninterrupted, END OF STORY. streaming services still haven't matched this experience.

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eadmund ◴[27 Dec 21 20:18 UTC] No.29706335[source]▶
> ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this

I think that the end goal for the media companies is to add watermarking to all media and require watermark detection on all video-recording equipment, to include cameras. This would be terribly bad, but I think it is technically possible.

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1. tux3 ◴[27 Dec 21 20:34 UTC] No.29706491[source]▶
A practical problem DRM will always have is that the full DRM chain that tries to include everything in the path down to the cables, that involves too many actors not to break. Keys will inevitably leak left and right, and you'll always be able to find some sort of cable and capture card setup that ignores DRM.

About the watermark scheme, if it was standardized for inclusion in any video-recording equipment, then the standard would leak and people would learn how to neuter it. Or people would flash their camera's firmware to patch out the detection code.

There's simply too many places where the scheme cannot be secure, by design. It's hard to stop finding weak points in the DRM scheme.

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2. rolph ◴[27 Dec 21 23:18 UTC] No.29708168[source]▶
once the bits are in your bus, you own them, as in physically have them, it becomes a matter of time and effort for you to access them in a humanly enjoyable manner.

it is possible to re engineer digital electronics with a little ribbon cable, an exacto knife, and a fine soldering hand.

the decrypted bitstream doesnt have to go to a display buffer it could go to memory instead.

that is where i see DRM failing to stop 100% of the leak, and is powerless to do so, as long as people can still understand, and manipulate lowlevel hardware and firmware

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3. fomine3 ◴[28 Dec 21 01:13 UTC] No.29709129[source]▶
I can't wait to implement WideVine DRM chip on my brain
4. nebula8804 ◴[29 Dec 21 08:54 UTC] No.29723122[source]▶
signed video cameras are coming to counteract the incoming tidalwave of AI generated misinformation. The 2024 US election will have swaths of AI generated videos. It will be a mess and I will continue to be longing for the simple days. I.e. dumb cameras/dumb game consoles/dumb tvs/dumb appliances etc.