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alufers ◴[] No.29703989[source]
Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker.

But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by the mighty DRM authors. And now the poor users of the TB-X505X will also have a degraded experience.

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marcodiego ◴[] No.29704881[source]
You're mixing up things. DRM goal is not to prevent copies, its goal is to give media producers control over the distributors.
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CorrectHorseBat ◴[] No.29705042[source]
Care to elaborate? What are they gaining from that?
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marcodiego ◴[] No.29705093[source]
Giant media conglomerate says to Big distributor:

  - Hi distributor! Do you want to distribute our content? You just have to make sure players will have this list of anti-features.
Big distributor says to manufacturer:

  - Hi manufacturer! Do you want to play the content we distrubute? You just have to make sure your TV's will have this list of anti-features.

And here we are.
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monocasa ◴[] No.29705276[source]
Yep, like the unskippable ads on legitimate DVDs, where you couldn't be certified if you made a DVD player that let you skip those video files like all the others on the disc, and you couldn't legally make an uncertified player because of the DRM.
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1. marcodiego ◴[] No.29705383[source]
Exactly. Like consuming content from another region, having a personal backup copy of content we legally bought, like re-selling content we legally own, like recording and replaying transmission from "terrestrial"/"over the air" TV, like making our own devices capable of playing that content...

These are all rights that (AFAIK, IANAL) we legally have but can't exercise because media producers took the control over distributors of content and devices manufacturers.

We have nothing equivalent to a VHS recorder where can simply press a button, recording whatever is on TV to a removable media and play it anywhere else! We can't even buy a non-smart (actually calling it smart is dumb) TV for a reasonable price anymore!

Video rental stores are all closed where I live. Media consuming has degraded to before 90's experience.

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2. genewitch ◴[] No.29706720[source]
>We have nothing equivalent to a VHS recorder where can simply press a button, recording whatever is on TV to a removable media and play it anywhere else! We can't even buy a non-smart (actually calling it smart is dumb) TV for a reasonable price anymore!

to the first part, some of the "antenna to HDMI" boxes let you plug in an SSD, and will let you have a "recording loop" like a DVR, and also let you DVR scheduled shows. If you then take that drive and plug it in to a computer, it will have files that open with VLC/mpv/mplayer/whatever.

And to the second part, I used a large monitor as a TV for a long while, and my primary screen is a projector, both of which are just dumb "bits to nits" devices. The downside is having to have external speakers.

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3. marcodiego ◴[] No.29706873[source]
> to the first part, some of the "antenna to HDMI" boxes let you plug in an SSD, and will let you have a "recording loop" like a DVR, and also let you DVR scheduled shows. If you then take that drive and plug it in to a computer, it will have files that open with VLC/mpv/mplayer/whatever.

What you probably will not find is one of these devices with support for netflix. No big name brand offer this feature. Probably not supporting this feature is required to get permission to support netflix.

> And to the second part, I used a large monitor as a TV for a long while, and my primary screen is a projector, both of which are just dumb "bits to nits" devices. The downside is having to have external speakers.

Yes. No "integrated" set. TV's now are locked down computers which take as much control away from the owner as possible.