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1703 points danrocks | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.22s | source

Recently I interviewed with Stripe for an engineering MoM (Manager of Managers) for one of their teams. I interview regularly, so I am used to many types of processes, feedback mechanisms, and so on. I won't go into details about the questions because there's nothing special about them, but I wanted to share some details of my experience for people thinking of interviewing there.

1) About 35-40% of the interviewers started their questioning by saying "I will only need 20 minutes for this", while emphasizing it is an important leadership position that they are hiring for. So 20 minutes is all needed to identify "important, critical leaders"? What a strange thing to say - also a GREAT way to make candidates feel important and wanted!

2) There is significant shuffling of interviewers and schedules. One almost has to be on-call to be able to react quickly.

3) For an engineering manager position, I only interviewed with only technical person. To me it hints that Engineering MoM is not a very technical position.

4) Of all the people I spoke to, the hiring manager was the one I spoke the least with. The phone screen was one of the "I only need 20 minutes for this" calls. The other one was quite amusing, and is described below.

5) After the loop was done, the recruiter called me to congratulate me on passing, and started discussing details of the offer, including sending me a document described the equity program. Recruiter mentioned that the hiring manager would be calling me to discuss the position next.

6) SURPRISE INTERVIEW! I get a call from the hiring manager, he congratulates me on passing the loop, then as I prepare to ask questions about the role, he again says "I need to ask you two questions and need 20 minutes for this". Then proceeds to ask two random questions about platforms and process enforcement, then hangs up the call after I answer. Tells me he'd be calling in a week to discuss the position.

7) I get asked for references.

8) After passing the loop, have the recruiter discuss some details of the offer, have the hiring manager tell me they'd be calling me after a week, I get ghosted for about 3.5 weeks. References are contacted and feedback is confirmed positive.

9) I ping the recruiter to see when the offer is coming - it's not coming. They chose another candidate. I am fine with it, even after being offered verbally, but the ghosting part after wasting so much of my time seems almost intentional.

10) I call up a senior leader in the office I applied to, an acquaintance of mine. His answer: "don't come. It's a mess and a revolving door of people". I was shocked with the response.

11) I get called by the recruiter saying that another director saw my feedback and is very interested in talking to me and do an interview loop.

Guess I'm not joining, then.

I am ok with passing loops, being rejected, I've seen it all. But being ghosted after acceptance is a first. What a bizarre place this is.

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BrandoElFollito ◴[] No.29391748[source]
> References are contacted and feedback is confirmed positive

The references idea is really weird (we do not practically have this in France). Has there even been a refence who was not in awe about the demi-god-genius-philanthropist that they are asked about?

The only one time i was asked for references, I send the contacts to good friends asking them not to do too much theater. Surprise! they came back positive.

I got one true, unexpected reference, when my university was asked about my PhD (confirmation of title only) and they came back with really nice words (again, nobody was asking for a reference, just a confirmation of tilte - bt they added it anyway and it was genuine (and yes, I knew the person who spontaneously wrote it :))

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dahdum ◴[] No.29396886[source]
> Has there even been a refence who was not in awe about the demi-god-genius-philanthropist that they are asked about?

I’ve only checked maybe 50-100 developer references over the years, but I can think of at least 3 that sunk the candidate outright and many more that were lukewarm. Enthusiastic references were uncommon and stood out.

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BrandoElFollito ◴[] No.29402969[source]
> Enthusiastic references were uncommon and stood out.

I that case I honestly do not understand how that system works. The applicant provided references they could expect not to be enthusiastic?

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dahdum ◴[] No.29406556[source]
If you've only had 1 or 2 previous jobs it's not a given you can get an enthusiastic reference. Some workplaces are just miserable all around, and some previous bosses may say they'd be happy to give a reference when they're still bitter the employee left or they had some personal grudge.
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1. BrandoElFollito ◴[] No.29407192[source]
Sure, this is why the one time I needed recommendations I just pointed to friends. They explained how wonderful I am.

This was a specific situation though: an American company doing business in France and not aware of the specificities here: you are not allowed to contact previous employers (except to confirm start and end date of a previous job), and plenty of other things you are not allowed to.

They had to check a mark so whatever they got they were happy with.