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1703 points danrocks | 3 comments | | HN request time: 0.001s | source

Recently I interviewed with Stripe for an engineering MoM (Manager of Managers) for one of their teams. I interview regularly, so I am used to many types of processes, feedback mechanisms, and so on. I won't go into details about the questions because there's nothing special about them, but I wanted to share some details of my experience for people thinking of interviewing there.

1) About 35-40% of the interviewers started their questioning by saying "I will only need 20 minutes for this", while emphasizing it is an important leadership position that they are hiring for. So 20 minutes is all needed to identify "important, critical leaders"? What a strange thing to say - also a GREAT way to make candidates feel important and wanted!

2) There is significant shuffling of interviewers and schedules. One almost has to be on-call to be able to react quickly.

3) For an engineering manager position, I only interviewed with only technical person. To me it hints that Engineering MoM is not a very technical position.

4) Of all the people I spoke to, the hiring manager was the one I spoke the least with. The phone screen was one of the "I only need 20 minutes for this" calls. The other one was quite amusing, and is described below.

5) After the loop was done, the recruiter called me to congratulate me on passing, and started discussing details of the offer, including sending me a document described the equity program. Recruiter mentioned that the hiring manager would be calling me to discuss the position next.

6) SURPRISE INTERVIEW! I get a call from the hiring manager, he congratulates me on passing the loop, then as I prepare to ask questions about the role, he again says "I need to ask you two questions and need 20 minutes for this". Then proceeds to ask two random questions about platforms and process enforcement, then hangs up the call after I answer. Tells me he'd be calling in a week to discuss the position.

7) I get asked for references.

8) After passing the loop, have the recruiter discuss some details of the offer, have the hiring manager tell me they'd be calling me after a week, I get ghosted for about 3.5 weeks. References are contacted and feedback is confirmed positive.

9) I ping the recruiter to see when the offer is coming - it's not coming. They chose another candidate. I am fine with it, even after being offered verbally, but the ghosting part after wasting so much of my time seems almost intentional.

10) I call up a senior leader in the office I applied to, an acquaintance of mine. His answer: "don't come. It's a mess and a revolving door of people". I was shocked with the response.

11) I get called by the recruiter saying that another director saw my feedback and is very interested in talking to me and do an interview loop.

Guess I'm not joining, then.

I am ok with passing loops, being rejected, I've seen it all. But being ghosted after acceptance is a first. What a bizarre place this is.

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999900000999 ◴[] No.29387809[source]
It's how it has to be.

This is why you don't need to give a 2 week notice, and you should always have your resume updated.

Need to take an offer knowing odds are a way better one is coming down the pipe, do it. They can lose budget and cut your role before you start.

Don't treat any job like a dream job, if you get there and nothing works, you have a nightmare.

My dream right now is to work hard until I'm 40 and retire. I can't imagine doing this for another 30 years .

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dilyevsky ◴[] No.29387858[source]
So if you get terminated one week in now you can’t go back bc you burned the bridge by not giving the notice? Sounds like fantastic plan!
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999900000999 ◴[] No.29387894[source]
Odds are they won't just take you back even if you give 2 weeks.
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1. burnished ◴[] No.29388587[source]
Sure that's going to happen, but think about it from the other side. If a good employee leaves for greener pastures and wants to come back later, well, they already know the work and the team. Wouldn't you want to rehire some one if you were in that position? Even if they leave again down the line it's not like you spent a lot of time or energy getting them up to speed, they were already ready from round #1.
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2. 999900000999 ◴[] No.29388686[source]
I thought it was implied, but generally if I don't even bother to put in a two weeks notice I'm not leaving on great terms.
3. tfigment ◴[] No.29389481[source]
I think its situational. I have only one employee that I can think of that I'd rehire even in the current market. The relationship is changed irreparably with me after quitting or threatening to if it was for another job. Any trust is gone unless you know they were a mercenary and worth it.