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1703 points danrocks | 6 comments | | HN request time: 0.62s | source | bottom

Recently I interviewed with Stripe for an engineering MoM (Manager of Managers) for one of their teams. I interview regularly, so I am used to many types of processes, feedback mechanisms, and so on. I won't go into details about the questions because there's nothing special about them, but I wanted to share some details of my experience for people thinking of interviewing there.

1) About 35-40% of the interviewers started their questioning by saying "I will only need 20 minutes for this", while emphasizing it is an important leadership position that they are hiring for. So 20 minutes is all needed to identify "important, critical leaders"? What a strange thing to say - also a GREAT way to make candidates feel important and wanted!

2) There is significant shuffling of interviewers and schedules. One almost has to be on-call to be able to react quickly.

3) For an engineering manager position, I only interviewed with only technical person. To me it hints that Engineering MoM is not a very technical position.

4) Of all the people I spoke to, the hiring manager was the one I spoke the least with. The phone screen was one of the "I only need 20 minutes for this" calls. The other one was quite amusing, and is described below.

5) After the loop was done, the recruiter called me to congratulate me on passing, and started discussing details of the offer, including sending me a document described the equity program. Recruiter mentioned that the hiring manager would be calling me to discuss the position next.

6) SURPRISE INTERVIEW! I get a call from the hiring manager, he congratulates me on passing the loop, then as I prepare to ask questions about the role, he again says "I need to ask you two questions and need 20 minutes for this". Then proceeds to ask two random questions about platforms and process enforcement, then hangs up the call after I answer. Tells me he'd be calling in a week to discuss the position.

7) I get asked for references.

8) After passing the loop, have the recruiter discuss some details of the offer, have the hiring manager tell me they'd be calling me after a week, I get ghosted for about 3.5 weeks. References are contacted and feedback is confirmed positive.

9) I ping the recruiter to see when the offer is coming - it's not coming. They chose another candidate. I am fine with it, even after being offered verbally, but the ghosting part after wasting so much of my time seems almost intentional.

10) I call up a senior leader in the office I applied to, an acquaintance of mine. His answer: "don't come. It's a mess and a revolving door of people". I was shocked with the response.

11) I get called by the recruiter saying that another director saw my feedback and is very interested in talking to me and do an interview loop.

Guess I'm not joining, then.

I am ok with passing loops, being rejected, I've seen it all. But being ghosted after acceptance is a first. What a bizarre place this is.

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999900000999 ◴[] No.29387809[source]
It's how it has to be.

This is why you don't need to give a 2 week notice, and you should always have your resume updated.

Need to take an offer knowing odds are a way better one is coming down the pipe, do it. They can lose budget and cut your role before you start.

Don't treat any job like a dream job, if you get there and nothing works, you have a nightmare.

My dream right now is to work hard until I'm 40 and retire. I can't imagine doing this for another 30 years .

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1. hijinks ◴[] No.29387812[source]
dont have kids then
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2. danrocks ◴[] No.29387826[source]
As someone who had kids in their 40s: this is the correct observation.
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3. 55555 ◴[] No.29387900[source]
This is a reference to kids being expensive?
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4. gameswithgo ◴[] No.29388099{3}[source]
That is one of many complications. Less time less sleep less ability to relocate
5. hpcjoe ◴[] No.29388269[source]
We had ours mid 30s. I also founded a company and ran it for the first 15 years of her life.

That is stressful. To put it mildly.

This said, having a kid is the toughest and most rewarding job you will ever have. If you don't like kids in general, sure, avoid them. Some of us do.

She's 21 now, applying to grad school for applied math, and (being slightly biased) is the most wonderful kiddo in the world.

As for FIRE type scenarios, unless you have an inheritance or a pre-existing nest-egg of some sort, yeah, kids tend to deplete cash flow. I'm 56, and if I'm lucky, I may be able to retire in my 70s. Part of that is due to the company being killed by our bank, all assets sold off, because they panicked. Leaving me with a giant hole where my retirement (and kid's college fund) was. Started over at 51, at (somewhat less than) 0. Do not recommend this.

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6. 999900000999 ◴[] No.29388463{3}[source]
>Part of that is due to the company being killed by our bank, all assets sold off, because they panicked.

Care to elaborate.

If I do end up FIRE, I imagine I could always have a family in a cheaper country. 2 million in FAANG RSUs can easily raise a family outside of America.