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I'm posting this as a warning to other startups who might be thinking of using Stripe to process payments.

I was employee #10 at Eventbrite, founding engineer at Reforge, Techstars alum, startup founder X 3. I can't imagine treating my users like this and I am really upset with how Stripe is handling this situation.

The situation: I own an online SaaS company that processes $500k+ per year through both Stripe and Braintree. I've been using Stripe for years.

Today I received this email:

[b]"Our systems recently identified charges that appear to be unauthorized by the customer, meaning that the owner of the card or bank account did not consent to these payments. This unfortunately means that we will no longer be able to accept payments for

Refunds on card payments will be issued in 5–7 business days, although they may take longer to appear on the cardholder's statement. Please refer to your dashboard for a list of the charges to be refunded[1]."[/b]

I have NO idea what payments they could possibly be referring to & support doesn't respond to my numerous messages. They won't tell me which payments are being refunded (dashboard link they provided just sends me to the list of ALL our payments).

There was a button to verify my identity, which I did, and an hour later, I got:

[b]"Thank you for completing our verification process. Unfortunately, after conducting a further review of your account, we’ve determined that we still won't be able to accept payments for xx moving forward."[/b]

I have messaged my friends who work at Stripe, and edwin@stripe who works there who responded to the last HN thread there was about this (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21030633).

Until I get a response through a backdoor way in, my business is at a complete halt.

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tkiolp4 ◴[] No.28092239[source]
Something similar happened to the company I was working for a few years ago. They suddenly were unable to keep using Stripe for card payments. They implemented something I never knew if it worked out or not (I left the company shortly after):

- they created a “payment promise” flow. Customers were businesses that were paying regularly, so this didn’t change at all, but instead of making a real payment via Stripe, they made a promise of payment at a later point in the future (this promise ended up as a simple Pdf stating the amount to be paid as soon as we could start charging again)

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1. atatatat ◴[] No.28099374[source]
This is just known as a PO or Purchase Order in business/many regions;

and is also how physical credit card "swipes" (run through a carbon paper copy 'machine') were settled ('back in the day').