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83 points buf | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.403s | source

I'm posting this as a warning to other startups who might be thinking of using Stripe to process payments.

I was employee #10 at Eventbrite, founding engineer at Reforge, Techstars alum, startup founder X 3. I can't imagine treating my users like this and I am really upset with how Stripe is handling this situation.

The situation: I own an online SaaS company that processes $500k+ per year through both Stripe and Braintree. I've been using Stripe for years.

Today I received this email:

[b]"Our systems recently identified charges that appear to be unauthorized by the customer, meaning that the owner of the card or bank account did not consent to these payments. This unfortunately means that we will no longer be able to accept payments for

Refunds on card payments will be issued in 5–7 business days, although they may take longer to appear on the cardholder's statement. Please refer to your dashboard for a list of the charges to be refunded[1]."[/b]

I have NO idea what payments they could possibly be referring to & support doesn't respond to my numerous messages. They won't tell me which payments are being refunded (dashboard link they provided just sends me to the list of ALL our payments).

There was a button to verify my identity, which I did, and an hour later, I got:

[b]"Thank you for completing our verification process. Unfortunately, after conducting a further review of your account, we’ve determined that we still won't be able to accept payments for xx moving forward."[/b]

I have messaged my friends who work at Stripe, and edwin@stripe who works there who responded to the last HN thread there was about this (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21030633).

Until I get a response through a backdoor way in, my business is at a complete halt.

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edwinwee ◴[] No.28087356[source]
(Edwin from Stripe here.) Just saw your email. I’m sorry for the trouble—we’re looking into this now.
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buf ◴[] No.28088173[source]
Thanks so much, Edwin.

Just some feedback from me. Here's email 1, which looks automated: > Our systems recently identified charges that appear to be unauthorized by the customer, meaning that the owner of the card or bank account did not consent to these payments. This means that we can no longer accept payments

Email 2, which feels like a human looked at it: > Thank you for completing our verification process. Unfortunately, after conducting a further review of your account, we’ve determined that we still won't be able to accept payments for xxx moving forward.

Finally email 3, definitely a human: > It looks like some activity on your account was misidentified as unauthorized, causing potential charge declines and the cancellation of your account. This was a mistake on our end, so we've gone ahead and re-enabled your account.

There's a lot of mixed messages here that could lead customers, like myself, to freak out. It feels like there should be a different process. If it wasn't for me reaching out in a bunch of places, I would've been lost as a customer.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go take my heart medication.

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1. partisan ◴[] No.28088518[source]
These get more and more frightening as you go along. You shut down someone's business and you just casually mention you will re-enable them almost as if it is a favor?

I'm sorry you are going through this.

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2. raxi ◴[] No.28095986[source]
Welcome to Platform Capitalism.

I wonder how 3x startup founder got into such a vendor lock, having no backup plan in case when a vendor cancels.