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I'm posting this as a warning to other startups who might be thinking of using Stripe to process payments.

I was employee #10 at Eventbrite, founding engineer at Reforge, Techstars alum, startup founder X 3. I can't imagine treating my users like this and I am really upset with how Stripe is handling this situation.

The situation: I own an online SaaS company that processes $500k+ per year through both Stripe and Braintree. I've been using Stripe for years.

Today I received this email:

[b]"Our systems recently identified charges that appear to be unauthorized by the customer, meaning that the owner of the card or bank account did not consent to these payments. This unfortunately means that we will no longer be able to accept payments for

Refunds on card payments will be issued in 5–7 business days, although they may take longer to appear on the cardholder's statement. Please refer to your dashboard for a list of the charges to be refunded[1]."[/b]

I have NO idea what payments they could possibly be referring to & support doesn't respond to my numerous messages. They won't tell me which payments are being refunded (dashboard link they provided just sends me to the list of ALL our payments).

There was a button to verify my identity, which I did, and an hour later, I got:

[b]"Thank you for completing our verification process. Unfortunately, after conducting a further review of your account, we’ve determined that we still won't be able to accept payments for xx moving forward."[/b]

I have messaged my friends who work at Stripe, and edwin@stripe who works there who responded to the last HN thread there was about this (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21030633).

Until I get a response through a backdoor way in, my business is at a complete halt.

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h2odragon ◴[] No.28085866[source]
You've been in business 4 years, and it's never occurred to you to look into alternate payment processing? Surely you saw there was a risk of this?
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1. codegeek ◴[] No.28087553[source]
You have a point but instead of blaming *edited from shaming* the OP, I would first worry about why Stripe cannot be more clear on what the issue could be. If the business was legitimately operating for 4 years, Stripe should do a bit more than just closing the account. Stories like this makes you wonder if aggregators like Stripe become too risky and you instead could be better off getting a merchant account of your own directly from a bank.
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2. h2odragon ◴[] No.28087951[source]
Shaming? I apologize, I was asking a question, which the OP kindly answered with more detail. I'm often kindof a jerk; OP had a problem that i found interesting, so now there's ^two^ problems.

A merchant account has several advantages; you might well find a person to talk to in case of conflict and confusion, possibly even the same person over time. The fees are lower too, I think.

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3. codegeek ◴[] No.28088358[source]
Haha no worries. On 2nd thoughts, I also realize I used a strong word. I should instead say "questioning/blaming" at most.