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ThePhysicist ◴[] No.27301428[source]
Their German counterpart, Sofortüberweisung, didn't properly blacklist test credentials given out by banks e.g. to developers in the beginning, so people could simply use those and pay for goods and services with fake accounts.

For me there are so many red flags with all these services, as they basically "steal" your credentials to log into your online banking. And while they claim that they only use the credentials to make transfers they could as well look at all my other account data. I really wonder how such a scheme can be legal and how banks can allow this, as they normally tell people to never give their credentials to anyone. The situation of course recently improved with the mandated 2FA for logins and transfers, but still there are so many attack vectors in this model that it boggles my mind how it can still exist.

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danpalmer ◴[] No.27301564[source]
Can you explain more about the credentials and online banking?

I've used (and integrated with) Klarna in the UK and from what I've seen it's only really a payment method with merchants who you pay back by card later.

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1. lxgr ◴[] No.27302156[source]
Klarna provides many different financial services.

They provide "pay by bank account" (which involves the mentioned MITMing of users' online banking accounts, unless Klarna is integrated with your bank via OAuth/PSD2, which is still not ubiquitous), but also installment payments/factoring and others.