TSMC looks to double down on U.S. chip factories as talks in Europe falter

The Nikkei has a detailed article [0] on the steps that China is taking to compete with TSMC and other western chip factories. I think a lot of commenters would be meaningful if they took time to read the other side of the problem and not just run into nationalist and inflammatory war.

[0] https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/The-Big-Story/US-China-tec...

>compete with TSMC and other western chip factories

Is TSMC is a western company?

When talking about "spheres of influence" China (and Russia) are seen as not-Western while Japan/SK/Taiwan are seen as Western, due to the American military umbrella.

That is a fantastic article. I have tried submitting it here unfortunately it didn't catch much interest.

Very sad at the level of discussion here at hn when it comes to the US-China tech war. It is quite fascinating what is happening in China where the country is forced to rebuild a full semiconductor industry. Every established player here in the west has a Chinese counterpart being forstered.

It is really a Chinese Sputnik moment and a whole of society effort. Must be a great time to be Chinese semiconductor engineer.

As for TSMC, it has with the current Taiwanese goverment, placed itself firmly in the US camp where they will let go of any Chinese customer at the US government's command. However a considerable minority (maybe even a majority in business circles) in Taiwan see themselves as Chinese and are not at all sympathetic to US containment policies on China.

> However a considerable minority (maybe even a majority in business circles) in Taiwan see themselves as Chinese and are not at all sympathetic to US containment policies on China.

That's an odd position for anyone living in Taiwan to take, seeing as how their democracy and country exist only because China does not yet have the military strength to change that. I find it highly probable that they cease to exist as a separate entity within the next two decades.

If you dig deeper into it you would probably find that this is not a black and white issue at all. After all there is reason why it is called "Republic of China".

That's because they're not Taiwanese :) they're spreading Chinese propaganda talking points.

Nothing is black and white, I still find it hard to believe that could ever be a non minority view though.

> After all there is reason why it is called "Republic of China".

Surely one of those reasons is that if they changed the name, the "People's Republic of China" would invade?

It is because the founders of the nation saw themselves as Chinese and the rightful rulers of all of China.

If you are Taiwanese and you trace family back to before 1949, your family is likely to be somewhere in China.

As for the business community, most of Taiwan’s trade is with the mainland. Probably explains why it is more sympathetic.

Does this mean Taiwan is part of the US? China doesn’t seem to agree with this.

Many Taiwanese would tell you, it was for the reason you say, back in 1949, but today, it is for the reason I said.