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xenihn ◴[] No.27161581[source]
I've been thinking about what would happen if there's an actual military crisis between China and Taiwan. I wonder if the United States would allow (and aid with) unlimited immigration from Taiwan for educated specialists, in an attempt to capture/retain as much skills and knowledge as possible.
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echelon ◴[] No.27161597[source]
The US should invite Taiwan to become the 50-nth state. Perhaps several states, to give them more Senate votes.

Numerous polls of the Taiwanese show that they would want to join the US if given the choice between independent statehood, joining the mainland, and joining the US.

Plus, the US gets a nice permanent military base and gets to monitor all future Chinese submarine activity.

If China attacks a US state, it would be like Yamamoto's "sleeping giant" moment. The US is trying to force China's hand while there is power asymmetry, and I can't think of a better checkmate move.

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PKop ◴[] No.27161986[source]
Are you going to enlist to fight in a war to defend this territory that is magically claimed as a US state? What motivation will Americans have to fight and die for Taiwan? They will have none.

>the US gets

C'mon, this is not how geopolitics works. China could easily defend this land from US incursion and they aren't even letting Taiwan be independent let alone let US take it for themselves.

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1. peteretep ◴[] No.27162042[source]
> What motivation will Americans have to fight and die for Taiwan?

Well if the Yanks are smart, the second it becomes a US state you strongly encourage two way migration so there are a bunch of square-jawed, grass-fed, All American kids living there that the US press can get exited about. Jack, Diane, and Tyrone getting shot at by the PLA is going to be a Big Fucking Deal.

Heck, if I was Taiwan I’d stop spending money on defence and just start spending money giving free university tuition to Americans.

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2. PKop ◴[] No.27164893[source]
>the second it becomes a US state

Putting the cart before the horse, that US could occupy this land before China defends it. Also, this is such a nerd bro theory, as if only you are clever enough to see the game being played...the US government could somehow completely fool their citizens into being bait for a war, moving to a disputed territory that inevitably will be a battleground, or again that anyone on the mainland will suddenly want to die for newly settled territory, conned into war so to speak. These square-jawed, grass-fed people are just very stupid, is your claim?

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3. peteretep ◴[] No.27165934[source]
> such a nerd bro theory, as if only you are clever enough

This doesn’t sound like a conversation worth getting involved in