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vages ◴[] No.26887003[source]
I get the technical justification for doing this: You own your player, so you should be able to control it in whatever way you want. But as consumers, how do we expect the uploader to get paid for their work if we use both Adblock and Sponsor-skip (for the lack of a better word)?

Pay to watch is, of course, an option, but that leads to discrimination based on income – unequally distributed between parts of the world and individuals in the same part of the world. (Yes, I am aware that the sponsorship system leads the creators to cater to the more well-off within each bubble, so it's still a bit discriminatory.)

Any ideas or objections?

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zeta0134 ◴[] No.26894852[source]
Personally, I just pay content creators as directly as possible. If they have a YouTube subscription option available I'll do that, but most of them seem to have a Patreon instead. If I like someone's content, a couple of bucks a month (or a video, or whatever) is more than worth it to me.
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1. qshaman ◴[] No.26895021[source]
I have the right to watch or not whatever I want , in the same way publishers have the right to add sponsorship content on their videos, same applies to ads , if you don’t want to see ads use an adblocker or skip the sponsorship part with an app like this one. If creators don’t like it , they should find another way of monetizing their work. Shaming people into watching ads is disgusting and wrong.
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2. spockz ◴[] No.26895231[source]
I think it strongly depends on your legislative region whether you are allowed to watch whatever you want on your own terms if the content has been published under different terms.

When you use YouTube you accept the terms and conditions (at least the parts that apply in your jurisdiction) which (probably) should state that you are not allowed to circumvent ads. If you do so you are in violation. Not sure what the consequences of that are though.

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3. delecti ◴[] No.26895276[source]
> I have the right to watch or not whatever I want

You don't though. You have the right to not watch whatever you want, but if content is published with the value proposition that the ads and/or sponsorships are the price of admission, then it's hard to argue that you have the right to access the content anyway. Some publishers try to enforce restrictions like that, mostly ineffectively, and it's probably only because of technical challenges that more don't.

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5. anoncake ◴[] No.26895418[source]
No. If content is published for 0€, it's free. If you want money, charge for it. That's the only business model that ensures that businesses serve their customers and thus the only legitimate one.
6. qshaman ◴[] No.26897188[source]
I do though. You can't force people to watch your content the way you like. You can hope, encourage, or maybe even incentivize. I do not have the right to watch a video, but I do have the right, once the video is publicly available, to watch the parts of the video I want. In the same way I have the right of changing channels during tv ads breaks. You can't dictate how people use their time.
7. qshaman ◴[] No.26897683[source]
> When you use YouTube you accept the terms and conditions (at least the parts that apply in your jurisdiction) which (probably) should state that you are not allowed to circumvent ads. If you do so you are in violation. Not sure what the consequences of that are though. I don't think so. Can you provide a link to the section of the ToS that says that?
8. MiddleEndian ◴[] No.26899049[source]
>terms and conditions

I'm sure all sorts of sites have magic words that claim I cannot block their ads. Meanwhile, some of them may have ad blocker detectors even if they don't have magic words. Either way, it's on them to show me or not show me whatever content they want, and on me to block ads or not and view their content or not.