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vages ◴[] No.26887003[source]
I get the technical justification for doing this: You own your player, so you should be able to control it in whatever way you want. But as consumers, how do we expect the uploader to get paid for their work if we use both Adblock and Sponsor-skip (for the lack of a better word)?

Pay to watch is, of course, an option, but that leads to discrimination based on income – unequally distributed between parts of the world and individuals in the same part of the world. (Yes, I am aware that the sponsorship system leads the creators to cater to the more well-off within each bubble, so it's still a bit discriminatory.)

Any ideas or objections?

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donw ◴[] No.26887078[source]
I am curious if direct revenue shares are a sustainable model.

E.g., I pay some money -- $10/month. I can choose to pay more. A fraction of that is divided evenly amongst all the videos I've watched. Creators get a check at the end of the month.

This wouldn't rake in billions of advertiser money. But I think it would sustain a very decent business, and be better for society in general.

This does need to be voluntary: I need to be able to choose to not pay and not watch (or watch with ads, as an alternative). And you need to be very transparent about the rules from the get-go, as well as about how those rules get changed, and apply those rules equally, lest you sacrifice the trust of both your viewers and creators.

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Mindwipe ◴[] No.26887119[source]
That is literally how YouTube Premium works today, but people seem to feel entitled to watch without paying any money and blocking the ads.
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1. Nextgrid ◴[] No.26887186[source]
I can't blame people for not giving money and personal information (signing up to Premium requires creating a Google account and provide true personal information for billing purposes) to a hostile company that makes its money on stalking users.
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2. throwaway3699 ◴[] No.26887214[source]
So, basically, ads are more private than subscriptions?
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3. Nextgrid ◴[] No.26887288[source]
When it comes from a hostile company, yes.

You can mitigate the privacy impact of ads with countermeasures such as ad-blockers or provide fake personal information if asked.

You can't easily do so with paid services because you need to provide real information for the payment to be processed. This requires mutual trust on both sides of the transaction.