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RL_Quine ◴[] No.26714582[source]
This is garbage, and shouldn't be part of Signal.

Everything on the internet is being corrupted with adding cryptocurrency scams where they absolutely don't belong, it turns Signal from an obvious recommendation into something that makes me hesitate. There's something to be said for focusing on doing one thing well, and that doesn't mean turning a communication platform into a kitchen sink.

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ncmncm ◴[] No.26715286[source]
Agree. It would be OK to make Signal able to integrate payment systems and make this thing compatible with that or with any other comm that implements the interface. Tying them together is pernicious.

Anyway Signal is itself pernicious by being tied to a phone number and to Google Play services, and by being very choosy about who gets ports.

I had high hopes for Matrix, once they got E2EE, but they have flubbed that by requiring a very heavyweight bounce server that won't fit on (e.g.) your typical home router or super-cheap cloud VM. Matrix should enable a place to keep your message archive independent of the bounce server, and allow gatewaying a non-public storage service via the lightweight bounce service.

But Element.io's business model is tied to heavy-weight bounce service.

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1. Arathorn ◴[] No.26717503[source]
speaking as CEO of Element, our business model is really not tied to Synapse being heavyweight at all - just the opposite. We provide Synapse hosting starting at $2/user/month, and so it's critical that running a server (including sysadmin) costs us as little as possible in order to be above water. We're not competing against self-hosters, but catering to folks who aren't sysadmins and so want us to host for them.

And as others have said, Synapse really isn't that heavyweight these days (thanks in part to the performance improvements driven by Element!)

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2. ncmncm ◴[] No.26720939[source]
Anything that needs a database is by definition a heavy-weight server.