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It looks like Signal isn't as open source as you thought it was anymore

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242 points raybb | 12 comments | 06 Apr 21 18:04 UTC | HN request time: 1.209s | source | bottom
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chrisco255 ◴[06 Apr 21 19:55 UTC] No.26716611[source]▶
Just use Status: https://status.im/private-messenger/

Mozilla Public License - E2E Encryption - P2P Messaging - Active community & git repo - Integrated Ethereum wallet for Web3 access

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1. speedgoose ◴[06 Apr 21 20:12 UTC] No.26716797[source]▶
The integrated ethereum wallet is a red flag for me.
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2. ubercow13 ◴[06 Apr 21 20:15 UTC] No.26716827[source]▶
The messaging itself actually runs on the ethereum network.
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3. chrisco255 ◴[06 Apr 21 20:20 UTC] No.26716880[source]▶
Why? Brave has an integrated Ethereum wallet. In the future, you won't want to use an app that doesn't have one, or at least doesn't have hooks for WalletConnect. Web3 has a fairer monetization system than the exploitative Web2 advertising model built on spying and manipulation.
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4. ben0x539 ◴[06 Apr 21 20:40 UTC] No.26717129[source]▶
Brave having an integrated Ethereum wallet is also reason enough for me to not consider using Brave.
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5. michaelsbradley ◴[06 Apr 21 21:18 UTC] No.26717510[source]▶
No it doesn't.

The messaging is run on a decentralized network that uses the Waku protocol.

Currently the clients (mobile and desktop) use Waku v1: https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/6/

But work to transition to Waku v2 is underway: https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/10/

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6. michaelsbradley ◴[06 Apr 21 21:26 UTC] No.26717595[source]▶
Many persons that are interested in decentralized messaging are also interested in cryptocurrency, but not all are.

If someone wishes to use the app only as a messenger, the wallet will neither add to nor take away from their experience, i.e. use of the wallet is entirely optional.

I'm a developer at Status, and am on the team responsible for the Status Desktop client[+] (currently in beta), feel free to ask me anything.

[+] https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop

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7. dybber ◴[06 Apr 21 21:44 UTC] No.26717747[source]▶
What makes crypto currencies solve a problem in this area that can’t be solved using traditional currencies and payment processors?

Blockchain is a system for introducing trust, who is it you don’t feel we should trust?

8. ubercow13 ◴[06 Apr 21 21:56 UTC] No.26717881{3}[source]▶
Yes but isn't the Waku v1 protocol running on ÐΞVp2p, which uses the Ethereum network? The protocol is Waku, but as far as I understand the 'decentralized network' is the Ethereum network?
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9. chrisco255 ◴[06 Apr 21 22:21 UTC] No.26718098{3}[source]▶
I wouldn't use Brave _because_ of that feature. After all, you can install any Chrome extension you want in Brave and use the wallet of your choice. But the existence of that feature is not a pre-requisite or post-requisite for using the product.
10. chrisco255 ◴[06 Apr 21 22:27 UTC] No.26718157{4}[source]▶
Here's the specs: https://specs.status.im/spec/10

That's correct. It uses Waku for routing and messaging, but the Waku nodes are Ethereum nodes with Waku v1 enabled.

Here's more from VAC, the org behind Waku and their plans for v2: https://vac.dev/waku-v2-ethereum-messaging

11. speedgoose ◴[07 Apr 21 04:02 UTC] No.26720463[source]▶
The crypto bullshit inside Brave is also a red flag and why I don't use it anymore and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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