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jxidjhdhdhdhfhf ◴[] No.26613220[source]
This is kind of the end result we're heading for, where you can only talk candidly with people who are equal or lower than you on the oppression hierarchy. The shitty part is that I'm pretty sure 99% of people are reasonable human beings but the media has to make it seem like that isn't the case so the risk equation changes. Similar to how kids used to roam around the neighborhood but now it's deemed too risky because the media makes it seem like there are murderers lurking around every corner.
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skjfdoslifjeifj ◴[] No.26614525[source]
One of my main concerns is that almost all legitimate discussion is now happening in private invite only communities because people are too risk averse to continue to chat on public sites that will be indexed forever in a culture where they can be cancelled for even a slightly uncouth opinion. Almost all of my consumption and contribution on the Internet is now in private communities that are quite strict about invites and the trend among my colleagues is similar.

When I was younger I learned so much and established many valuable relationships by having discussions on public services/websites. Many legends in the field were quite accessible on public sites and mailing lists. My life would be much worse if I hadn't had those experiences and it feels like a lot of younger people that don't have connections to the SV bubble are now going to miss out on similar experiences.

This isn't to say that we should be tolerant of everything but it definitely feels like we've swung too far in the opposite direction.

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remarkEon ◴[] No.26614758[source]
Not saying I do this, necessarily, but friends of mine who are active in policy circles write for various publications under pseudonyms now for this reason. The development of the idea happens in private group chats, where everyone is using their IRL name, but the publication happens under a pen name.

I really don't know if this is a positive change for how policy gets made, but it is happening actively right now.

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spoonjim ◴[] No.26615341[source]
Can you link to some examples of policy papers written under pseudonyms?
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remarkEon ◴[] No.26615412[source]
Obviously no? That would defeat the purpose.

I understand what you're getting at though. I just made a claim that people in policy circles are writing things under pseudonyms. You want evidence for this (justifiably), but this would require me to essentially out the pen names. Sorry, not going to happen.

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spoonjim ◴[] No.26616912[source]
Oh, so the pseudonyms appear to be real names, and are not known as pseudonyms? Or are they things like “Cicero.” I wasn’t looking for your contacts as much as I am trying to answer “Are pseudonymously written works more bold/risk-taking etc?”

What happens if someone Googles the pseudonym? Or tries to contact it? Do they use an anonymous email address or just not allow it?

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1. remarkEon ◴[] No.26617133[source]
>“Are pseudonymously written works more bold/risk-taking etc?”

The answer to this question is yes.