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DoreenMichele ◴[] No.26613077[source]
I'm really glad to see this here. I don't have a better word readily available than sexism for trying to talk about patterns like this but when I use the word sexism, I think people think I mean "Men are intentionally exclusionary assholes just to be assholes because they simply hate women." and that's never what I'm trying to say.

I find my gender is a barrier to getting traction and my experience is that it's due to patterns of this sort and not because most men intentionally want me to fail. But the cumulative effect of most men erring on the side of protecting themselves and not wanting to take risks to engage with me meaningfully really adds up over time and I think that tremendously holds women back generally.

I think gendered patterns of social engagement also contributed to the Theranos debacle. I've said that before and I feel like it tends to get misunderstood as well. (Though in the case of Theranos it runs a lot deeper in that she was actually sleeping with an investor.)

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dageshi ◴[] No.26613164[source]
Genuine question, if you were a man in that situation, what would you do?
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DoreenMichele ◴[] No.26613184[source]
In what situation?
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dageshi ◴[] No.26613212[source]
Well the situation in the article seems like a good example, you think the female ceo should swap with the male co founder. You're invested but not massively and you've not really known either for years.
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DoreenMichele ◴[] No.26613228[source]
The odds are good I would err on the side of not risking it

Which is why this needs to be discussed: So a path forward can be found. Our current default patterns aren't working well.

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1. ldiracdelta ◴[] No.26615725[source]
I think the pattern that has recently been abandoned is trial by jury instead of rule by emotional, angry, partially-informed mob. If you see people in your sphere of influence jumping into a 15-minutes-of-hate session, call them to the mat.
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2. theamk ◴[] No.26616595[source]
And then there is a chance that their next 15-minutes-of-hate session will be pointing towards you. Safer to stay away.