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mycologos ◴[] No.26350071[source]
One of my pet meta-theories about Hacker News is that the frustration expressed over several apparently different stories really has a single source: Hacker News likes the internet of 10-20 years ago a lot more than the average person.

One place this shows up is a frequently-expressed sentiment that the internet is a less magical, less weird, and more corporate place than it was 10-20 years ago. Part of this may be because SEO has diluted the voices of individual creators. But part of it is also because way more average, everyday, tech-unsavvy people are on the internet now.

Another example is the periodic highlighting of somewhat garish HTML-based websites. I like these too! My own personal website falls in this category! But as far as I know, the generic internet user likes the generic slick-graphics-and-whitespace style, and so go the websites that want to attract them.

More relevant to the topic at hand, many comments in this thread argue that targeted ads are unnecessary for a functional internet, since the internet of 20 years ago seemed to work just fine without targeted ads. But, again, it's less clear to me that general internet users -- that is, mostly people who never experienced the internet of 20 years ago -- have the same preference.

It's funny, because I'm to a large extent on HN's side on this one. But my enthusiasm is tempered by my sneaking suspicion that the other side is a lot bigger, and my side is actually powered by more elitism and nostalgia than I thought.

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xenocyon ◴[] No.26350476[source]
I'll admit I like some aspects of the internet of 20 years ago more than today's. I don't like our current world of targeted ads, SEO, overlays, scripts, autoplay videos, and a thousand trackers. But I don't think this makes me that different from today's average internet user - just different from today's average marketer. Indeed, noxious marketing-friendly/user-hostile devices existed in some form 20 years ago as well (intrusive banner ads, popups etc).
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ehsankia ◴[] No.26353771[source]
Today's average user comes to the internet for Youtube, TikTok, Twitter, Twitch, and maybe more "useful" stuff like Maps, Translate, Docs, or information like news, recipes, guides, etc.

None of this would be possible without ads. No one is going to pay for all that.

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1. account42 ◴[] No.26386359[source]
> None of this would be possible without ads. No one is going to pay for all that.

Recipes and guides would not be possible without ads???

YouTube, TikTok, Twitter is mostly user generated content. You really can't imagine a world were hosting for user-generated content is not funded with ads???