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dleslie ◴[] No.26344736[source]
This captures my feelings on the issue:

> That framing is based on a false premise that we have to choose between “old tracking” and “new tracking.” It’s not either-or. Instead of re-inventing the tracking wheel, we should imagine a better world without the myriad problems of targeted ads.

I don't want to be tracked. I never have wanted to be tracked. I shouldn't have to aggressively opt-out of tracking; it should be a service one must opt-in to receive. And it's not something we can trust industry to correct properly. This is precisely the role that privacy-protecting legislation should be undertaking.

Stop spying on us, please.

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evrydayhustling ◴[] No.26345507[source]
It seems like FLoC could make it easier to opt out centrally rather than going through a mess of specific (dis)approvals for the specific trackers on every site. Maybe it could even be a good place for a dial - "I'll expose a 4-bit cohort, but nothing more specific."

It also seems like FLoC could make it more politically viable to crack down non-consensual tracking. Publishers wouldn't be able to say "we have no choice but to deal with this [third party tracker] scum" but could continue to gate content by subscription or (consensual) FLoC as necessary for their business model.

Pushing publishing and advertising towards proactive consent about targeting puts them into a dialog with the market about what's ok, instead of letting them hide behind a bunch of shifting tracker businesses.

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1. nuker ◴[] No.26349899[source]
> "I'll expose a 4-bit cohort, but nothing more specific."

You're dreaming. You'll also expose to Google IP and website URL via Referer in requests for fonts and jsquery bundles, in Google cookies masqueraded as first-party via CNAME tricks, in Chrome identifier and so on. Chances are you're using Google DNS 8.8.8.8 too.

I wont trust a company to disable the data source for their main revenue. Just don't use any of Google software and services. Android included, sadly.