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Google’s FLoC Is a Terrible Idea

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604 points wyldfire | 3 comments | 04 Mar 21 15:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.493s | source
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dleslie ◴[04 Mar 21 16:49 UTC] No.26344736[source]▶
This captures my feelings on the issue:

> That framing is based on a false premise that we have to choose between “old tracking” and “new tracking.” It’s not either-or. Instead of re-inventing the tracking wheel, we should imagine a better world without the myriad problems of targeted ads.

I don't want to be tracked. I never have wanted to be tracked. I shouldn't have to aggressively opt-out of tracking; it should be a service one must opt-in to receive. And it's not something we can trust industry to correct properly. This is precisely the role that privacy-protecting legislation should be undertaking.

Stop spying on us, please.

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sofixa ◴[04 Mar 21 17:39 UTC] No.26345398[source]▶
Do you use Web Monetisation ( as in, pay)? If you don't, and don't want to be tracked for ads, how do you propose things work?
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esperent ◴[04 Mar 21 17:52 UTC] No.26345567[source]▶
Do you mean this?

https://webmonetization.org/

It barely exists so far and is only implemented by a single browser that I'd never heard of (Puma). Hardly fair to demand if people are using it yet.

> how do you propose things work?

We go back to advertising without tracking.

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sofixa ◴[04 Mar 21 17:53 UTC] No.26345596[source]▶
Indeed, their page doesn't make it obvious, but on a computer you can use extensions for Chrome and Firefox. Puma is the only option on mobile though ( never heard of it either).
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gwenzek ◴[04 Mar 21 19:22 UTC] No.26346901[source]▶
Which extension ? The landing page is terrible for a prospective user.
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input_sh ◴[04 Mar 21 19:25 UTC] No.26346950[source]▶
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/coil/

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/coil/locbifcbeldmn...

I agree that their web presentation leaves a lot to be desired.

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1. gwenzek ◴[04 Mar 21 19:53 UTC] No.26347309[source]▶
Thanks a lot. Coil looked like its own browser, and I didn't want yo use another browser. I was using a similar service in the past, but unsuscribed because most created I wanted to send money weren't receiving it.

Will look into this

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2. sofixa ◴[04 Mar 21 20:17 UTC] No.26347667[source]▶
Yeah, it's not as obvious as it could be, i'm in the process of writing an article on the subject and how important i think it is combat ads and tracking in the long term.
3. sofixa ◴[07 Mar 21 14:05 UTC] No.26375916[source]▶
FYI i wrote a post on the subject : https://atodorov.me/2021/03/07/please-support-web-monetizati...