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sputr ◴[] No.26194057[source]
I keep warning small time (ie most) FB page owners who advertise on FB to be very very careful as they are being subjected to a beefed up version of the psychological manipulation that regular users face as they, not the regular users, are the main customers.

Facebooks corporate incentive is to get you to FEEL like your getting good value out of advertising on Facebook and to get you addicted to doing it.

Not to actually deliver results.

So don't trust any metric they show you, because even if its not a total fabrication it's still presented in a way to deceive you to think its better than it is.

Always monitor your ROI and always calculate it using your truly end goal (sales, or in the case of civil society some sort engagement off Facebook that's tightly bound to you mission). Likes, shares, comments and reach should NEVER be the goal. Even if FBs interface is trying to convince you otherwise.

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throwawayfb69 ◴[] No.26194560[source]
I have previously got a decent ROI from Facebook ads, but it was also very evident that they were not providing the service that they claimed. Whenever I ran specific locally targeted ads, large numbers of apparently fake accounts from around the world would like my business page: representing a significant percentage of the clicks that Facebook was claiming.

Clearly, FB was reaching some relevant users, since I picked some up as customers, but this was ridiculously padded with users outside the demographic that I was paying for, and I had to again figure out whether people were potential customers (re-qualify them). This left a sour taste and, as a result, I will not use Facebook advertising again.

I'm not sure why it's in Facebook's interest to lie like this.

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HenryBemis ◴[] No.26194881[source]
> I'm not sure why it's in Facebook's interest to lie like this.

Looks like you are doing your homework. Not everyone does though. Even if 60% of people who buy ads try to correlate the data, well there is a 40% that doesn't. That's easy money.

What surprises me is the coincidence that you ad drew the attentio of fake accounts. So, who preserves a network of fake accounts that will give you the false validation that you ad is working?

I see the benefit to FB that these fake accounts exist (and are NOT detected/eradicated).

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Red_Leaves_Flyy ◴[] No.26195139[source]
Could a fake account network be trying to hide themselves in plain sight by engaging with advertisements?
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rtkwe ◴[] No.26195200{3}[source]
If the OP is targeting a specific region with their ads why are random accounts from outside seeing those ads? and if they're just looking around for random companies to like why is that being credited to the ad buy?
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Red_Leaves_Flyy ◴[] No.26195469{4}[source]
Spoofed gps?
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1. jfk13 ◴[] No.26195924{5}[source]
My understanding is that the default behavior for location-targeted ads on FB is that they get shown both to users in the relevant location and to users who have said they are "interested" in it, even if their own location is the other side of the world.