←back to thread

618 points elorant | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.001s | source
Show context
sputr ◴[] No.26194057[source]
I keep warning small time (ie most) FB page owners who advertise on FB to be very very careful as they are being subjected to a beefed up version of the psychological manipulation that regular users face as they, not the regular users, are the main customers.

Facebooks corporate incentive is to get you to FEEL like your getting good value out of advertising on Facebook and to get you addicted to doing it.

Not to actually deliver results.

So don't trust any metric they show you, because even if its not a total fabrication it's still presented in a way to deceive you to think its better than it is.

Always monitor your ROI and always calculate it using your truly end goal (sales, or in the case of civil society some sort engagement off Facebook that's tightly bound to you mission). Likes, shares, comments and reach should NEVER be the goal. Even if FBs interface is trying to convince you otherwise.

replies(10): >>26194191 #>>26194413 #>>26194461 #>>26194504 #>>26194560 #>>26194714 #>>26195371 #>>26195775 #>>26196787 #>>26198495 #
spideymans ◴[] No.26194413[source]
>Facebooks corporate incentive is to get you to FEEL like your getting good value out of advertising on Facebook and to get you addicted to doing it.

Even more reason for us to be doubtful about FB's claims that small businesses would be decimated without FB's invasive tracking.

replies(1): >>26194708 #
cm2012 ◴[] No.26194708[source]
If FB was actually completely forbidden from tracking, I'd estimate 85% of small shopify stores would die with it. The winners would be giant marketplaces like Amazon, who would be the only reliable sources left of customer acquisition.
replies(7): >>26194740 #>>26194771 #>>26194928 #>>26195096 #>>26195599 #>>26196285 #>>26198728 #
iamacyborg ◴[] No.26194771[source]
> I'd estimate 85% of small shopify stores would die with it

And nothing of value was lost.

replies(2): >>26194867 #>>26195355 #
dillondoyle ◴[] No.26195355[source]
It's patronizing to just throw out and blanket judge so many people and products just because you don't think they have value.

There is value to the consumers purchasing products - many of which are innovative and to be copied later once successful. It's a giant AB test.

There is also value to the business owners, small, medium and large.

You could apply that opinion to any product whether on shopify or even bigger open marketplaces like amazon, walmart

replies(1): >>26195393 #
1. iamacyborg ◴[] No.26195393[source]
I mean, I think you could pretty safely cull 95% of the absolute junk on Amazon without any real loss (except to Amazon's advertising business).