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macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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2603 points mattsolle | 1 comments | 12 Nov 20 21:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.215s | source
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submeta ◴[12 Nov 20 21:15 UTC] No.25075156[source]▶
Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago.

Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail:

https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289

> I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so, the entire operating system grinds to a halt.

EDIT:

As others pointed out, I put this to my `/etc/hosts` file and refreshed it like so:

    sudo emacs /etc/hosts # add `0.0.0.0 ocsp.apple.com` 
    sudo dscacheutil -flushcache; sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder # refresh hosts
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read_if_gay_ ◴[12 Nov 20 21:49 UTC] No.25075547[source]▶
I started panicking mildly thinking my drive was failing or something.

And just before this, I finally managed to fix Spotlight pegging one core at 100% constantly. Next thing, I reboot into a laggy system. macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... it's basically an abusive relationship at this point.

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zapataband ◴[13 Nov 20 05:26 UTC] No.25079197[source]▶
My music software became completely useless on catalina, and I was also running into issues with spotlight so I disabled it. I downgraded(painfully) to Mojave and my system is so much speedier. wish I could completely switch to linux.
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abruzzi ◴[13 Nov 20 20:14 UTC] No.25086912[source]▶
yeah, but in the end, choice of OS is secondary to choice of application. I'm staying on Mojave for the foreseeable future, but I'll stay with Mac because Logic Pro is not available on any other platform. Sometimes applications are fungible, or you're lucky and your critical application is available on multiple platforms, but sometimes there are only certain applications that can do what you want. I run a MacOS System 7 for software to edit my Yamaha VL-1. I run MacOS 9.2.8 due to hardware drivers for a Korg OasysPCI. I run MacOS 10.6.8 Snow Leopard because is is the last OS that runs rosetta and keeps numerous PowerPC apps that never made the jump to Intel. I'll keep Mojave running when eventually I have to jump to Arm because I'm sure a lot of the software I run won't make the jump to Arm. I'd LOVE to drop any of those systems, but each exists because there are applications that do not have replacement on modern OS'es.
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1. iainctduncan ◴[14 Nov 20 17:18 UTC] No.25093714[source]▶
And that, my friend, is exactly why they bought Logic. Don't know if you were in the music game back then, but they way it played out was:

- Logic had the pole position for non-pro-tools music at the time, and sold (IIRC) for about $600

- Apple bought Logic and stated publicly "we will not discontinue it on windows"

- I think a year later, might have been two, they cancelled it on windows

- Some time later, they dropped the price, and also put out garage band, using Logic's engine.

- Logic's product roadmap (from what I've heard) became more general user friendly (can't attest to this personally though)

Basically, anything Apple owns becomes part of the plan to get you on a mac and iEverything, secondary to whatever it's originally purpose is. I won't touch any music software now that doesn't run on at least 2 operating systems. Fortunately most of them now realize the importance of this.

I'd recommend looking at other options like Reaper, Cubase, or Digital Performer, all of which have been improving steadily and can on windows or OSX.

Personally I'm sticking on High Sierra, and doubt my next machine will be a mac. Man I'm going to miss Bash everywhere though. Sigh