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pgt ◴[12 Nov 20 23:25 UTC] No.25076714[source]▶
A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer.

Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going through the same process, albeit more slowly.

And even though I just bought an MBP16, Apple monitoring every binary I run makes me want to sell it immediately and never buy another iPhone, Watch or Macbook. No one is going to catch Apple on performance and form factor for a long time, but I'm willing to invest in a long-term ecosystem that won't allow things like this...as long as I don't need to debug audio drivers. I am done with that phase of my life.

So if I had to choose an alternate path, what would such a path look like that could eventually approach the build quality of an Apple Macbook Pro? That product doesn't have to exist yet, it just has to be on the path.

(I looked at Alienware's M2 and M3, but it cost about the same as an MBP16 but with more blue LEDs.)

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russelg ◴[12 Nov 20 23:42 UTC] No.25076882[source]▶
The Dell XPS range is probably the closest available currently.
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1. ls65536 ◴[13 Nov 20 02:26 UTC] No.25078130[source]▶
I had the pleasure of installing Ubuntu on a modern Dell XPS recently. I was happy to discover that everything seems to work flawlessly upon install without any additional fiddling: WiFi, trackpad, touchscreen, display scaling, and really everything else I've tried so far worked great. It's an absolute joy!

There was a time I remember when various things with Linux installations were often quirky or troublesome to get working well with certain laptop hardware, but I'm convinced now that this situation has improved tremendously since then...at least from my recent experience and hearing other good things about the Dell XPS and various ThinkPad models, and of course System76 (although I haven't had a chance to try one of those myself yet).

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2. dlgeek ◴[13 Nov 20 04:50 UTC] No.25079006[source]▶
You can actually buy the XPSs with Ubuntu preloaded even. (Or, used to be able to - I went back to a Thinkpad and haven't looked lately).
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3. robocat ◴[13 Nov 20 06:37 UTC] No.25079626[source]▶
You can buy the XPS13 Developer Edition. The XPS15 doesn’t come preinstalled with Linux (although it apparently works well and is well supported). If you want an officially supported Dell 15”, you need to buy the more expensive Precision: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystem...
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4. jessaustin ◴[14 Nov 20 01:30 UTC] No.25089511{3}[source]▶
There may be some supply chain issues with the Linux one. When I ordered this in August, they never sent it and cancelled my order 1.5 months later. I reordered it that day, and it was delivered within several days. I do like it very much.