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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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1080 points antipaul | 11 comments | 12 Nov 20 00:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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faitswulff ◴[12 Nov 20 04:22 UTC] No.25066407[source]▶
This really flips the argument that Mac hardware is overpriced and underpowered on its head. Now Apple computers are a premium product from a performance perspective, as well.
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1. gazelleeatslion ◴[12 Nov 20 04:30 UTC] No.25066460[source]▶
So performant premium that I’m thinking of calling Apple about my MBP preorder and switching it to the Air.

Last thing I need is a MacBook Air equivalent with an unnecessarily loud and annoying fan.

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2. whalesalad ◴[12 Nov 20 04:36 UTC] No.25066493[source]▶
I would. It’s the same chip in every device. Plus, having owned one of each, the chassis of the Air cannot be beat.
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3. gazelleeatslion ◴[12 Nov 20 04:37 UTC] No.25066505[source]▶
Waiting for some more information. Fan noise on any MBP is Hell and out of control. Hoping this brings back to normal.

So happy Apple is dumping Fantel chips

4. tedk-42 ◴[12 Nov 20 04:42 UTC] No.25066525[source]▶
Hang on, you're swapping a AS MBP for an AS MBA because you think the fan noise will be an issue with the MBP?

If anything, it's a bonus to have the fan so your can have prolonged boost performance while the MBA chip will throttle under continuous load.

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5. marta_morena_28 ◴[12 Nov 20 04:42 UTC] No.25066526[source]▶
Yeah, they only put the fan in MBP to annoy people, of course. It has zero use. Go order the Macbook Air and have fun. Maybe you can fry your breakfast eggs on it too.
6. gazelleeatslion ◴[12 Nov 20 04:48 UTC] No.25066551[source]▶
Any MBP with Fantel chips (brand new, no dust) is so quick to just gun it with the fan noise - slack, chrome, electron apps, second monitor.

I think I would rather take a small performance hit and some heat than have Apple quick to pull the trigger with a fan blasting noise as I’m trying to focus (if yield comparable stats).

Will wait for more info. If this chip is really that much more efficient hopefully we are back to the good old days where MBP fan is tolerable. Otherwise I’m all in on Air

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7. lostlogin ◴[12 Nov 20 04:53 UTC] No.25066579[source]▶
An air with 2 plugs on each side would beat it. Bonus points if MagSafe returned.
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8. whalesalad ◴[12 Nov 20 04:59 UTC] No.25066606{3}[source]▶
I don’t miss MagSafe. A good external monitor will charge the Mac and serve as a usb/thunderbolt hub.
9. kube-system ◴[12 Nov 20 05:14 UTC] No.25066708{3}[source]▶
I think the fan noise you experience is not Apple's fault, but Intel's fault.
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10. wishysgb ◴[12 Nov 20 15:56 UTC] No.25071154{4}[source]▶
well, my very powerful laptop barely every gets any noise. Most of the time it is silent until I am compiling something. It is of course apples fault as their cooling is suboptimum
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11. kube-system ◴[12 Nov 20 18:55 UTC] No.25073397{5}[source]▶
Is Apple's cooling suboptimum or is Intel's TDP suboptimum?

"Make it thicker and heavier" is apparently not the answer that Apple was looking for from Intel.

Thin and light Wintel PCs are known for having a lot of thermal issues too.