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klelatti ◴[] No.25058716[source]
> it is possible that Apple’s chip team is so far ahead of the competition, not just in 2020, but particularly as it develops even more powerful versions of Apple Silicon, that the commoditization of software inherent in web apps will work to Apple’s favor, just as the its move to Intel commoditized hardware, highlighting Apple’s then-software advantage in the 00s.

I think Ben is missing something here: that the speed and specialist hardware (e.g. neural engine) on the new SoCs again give developers of native apps the ability to differentiate themselves (and the Mac) by offering apps that the competition (both web apps and PCs) can't. It's not just about running web apps more quickly.

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Hamcha ◴[] No.25058922[source]
Apple is also working against itself in that department. As far as I know a webapp does not need to be approved by Apple to go live.
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klelatti ◴[] No.25058961[source]
I think you're confusing the Mac with iOS. Native Mac apps don't have to be approved by Apple unless they are on the Mac App Store.
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izacus ◴[] No.25059083[source]
Apple has made publishing apps without their approval significantly harder during last couple of years. With pretty much mandatory notarization there were several app developers who just stopped developing macOS software due to increasing amount of restrictions and process involved.
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klelatti ◴[] No.25059184[source]
Very fair comment. I guess that most developers don't see it as a huge issue though (I've not seen any issues with Apps that I use on Catalina). Direction of travel is towards more onerous Apple involvement.
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1. 05 ◴[] No.25059941[source]
To the contrary, most apps I have to install from outside the App Store now aren’t signed and need the workaround (right click, Open, OK the scary dialog, open again) to run.
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2. zepto ◴[] No.25060079[source]
Are you really ‘scared’ by the dialog?
3. klelatti ◴[] No.25060193[source]
Agreed but I think it's stretching it a bit call it a 'workaround' when it essentially tells you what to do :)
4. fedorareis ◴[] No.25061720[source]
You make this sound like a new problem. You have had to do that for unsigned apps for years and at least in my experience the majority of apps that come from outside the App Store are unsigned. This has been a thing for so long that I almost instinctively right click, Open the first time I run an app I downloaded from the internet