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x87678r ◴[] No.25058513[source]
Its difficult to think different if you're the world's largest company and dominate the phone market. In laptops it looks like they are differentiating themselves very well.
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cpuguy83 ◴[] No.25058562[source]
Apple has a small piece of the smartphone pie. That said, their CPU's are consistently in a class of their own.
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dmitriid ◴[] No.25058597[source]
And this year they are creeping back to 90s era: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro are essentially the same phone. So no reason why both exist, except to muddy up the product line.
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jsinai ◴[] No.25058675[source]
The key differentiator is the camera on the Pro, which significantly increases the cost. Some people will pay a premium for the privilege of owning the top model and yet others will go for the Pro precisely because of the more advanced camera.

By having separate lines, Apple can sell the 12 for cheaper than the 12 Pro, and those who are willing to pay for the 12 Pro camera can do so. Don’t see any muddying here.

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anonymouse008 ◴[] No.25058942[source]
The problem is as a “normal user” you can’t go to your ‘tech friend’ and get a straight answer — there are too many considerations now to direct someone to one phone over another.

It’s not ‘yeah, the new iPhone is great! You gotta have it.’ It’s “so what do you want to do mostly?” — no one knows.

That is what I believe the 90s curse really means — your evangelists are no longer as effective because they give potential customers an overwhelming amount of information that slows down, and sometimes prevents, a sale.

—- Your point is exactly right - Apple has decided to harvest the demand curve over making something undeniably great.

Edit: let me clarify, watch and homepod mini are currently in the category of 'just get it' products. This is only a critique of the iPhone line.

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janekm ◴[] No.25059520[source]
A curious critique of Apple's product line given the strategy of the competition: https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/samsung-phones

(I would argue it's very simple: "Get the iPhone 12 in the size and colour you like", the Pro models are an up-sale for the people who want different screen-size or slightly better cameras)

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1. anonymouse008 ◴[] No.25059693[source]
I'd argue if you're comparing to your competition, you have no idea what you want to build.

[Edit] Apple is specifically doing this frayed product line to harvest the demand curve, lower supply costs, and amortize R&D across a large unit base... they are playing to the current low interest rate world in this product line. It's an intentional business choice, not a product choice.

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2. anonymouse008 ◴[] No.25062416[source]
To the lovely downvotes, do we have to talk about how this plays perfectly into the tiny form factors required for all day AR?

However I still believe it’s a bit more aggressive than necessary.