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1183 points robenkleene | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.211s | source
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admax88q ◴[] No.24843261[source]
If Microsoft did this in windows, or Google did this in chrome, would we see so much defense of this strategy? Or could it be those rose coloured glasses that HN tends to view Apple through.

Or more like "users are literally brain dead and cannot be trusted to change the channels on their TV" coloured glasses. If you only trust your users to watch TV, then get into TVs instead of computers.

We don't fault the maker of a drill when a careless user drills a hole in their hand. We fault the user for being careless. At what point do we start doing the same for computers? The advantage of physical power-tools is that their mechanism of operation is readily apparent, open, understandable, predictable. If Apple really cares about their users, they should start investing in making software open, understandable, predictable. This is a much harder problem, and probably less profitable, than just building another TV, but I'd rather live in that world than this one. I don't need another TV.

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1. nickflood ◴[] No.24846517[source]
Btw, when I've been testing a "kill switch" on Windows (firewall configuration that doesn't allow internet access without a VPN running) using the built-in firewall, I discovered that

- Chrome adds a Firewall rule on installation that grants it access to all networks, bypassing kill switch configurations.

- Microsoft has an "Allow app through Firewall" [1] dialog that manages all of the rules for its apps and services along with some third-party apps. These rules again tend to allow everything, and at least on earlier builds from like 2018 they would reset to allow everything on _every_ update.

This was such a pain to deal with.

[1] https://az767233.vo.msecnd.net/images/Security/win8_winfirew...