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Apple's apps bypass firewalls like LittleSnitch and LuLu on macOS Big Sur

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1183 points robenkleene | 2 comments | 20 Oct 20 15:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.421s | source
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3pt14159 ◴[20 Oct 20 16:03 UTC] No.24838967[source]▶
This is one of those tough cases where software cuts both ways.

Some people are smart, informed developers that install a trusted tool to monitor their traffic and have legitimate reasons to want to inspect Apple traffic. They're dismayed.

Most people are the opposite and this move protects the most sensitive data from being easily scooped up or muddled in easily installed apps, or at least easily installed apps that don't use zero days.

Is the world better or worse due to this change? I'd say a touch better, but I don't like the fact that this change was needed in the first place. I trust Apple, but I don't like trusting trust.

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GekkePrutser ◴[20 Oct 20 19:26 UTC] No.24841406[source]▶
Who cares about the world.. I just want full access to the system I paid for. This should always remain an option.
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sjwright ◴[21 Oct 20 05:12 UTC] No.24844925[source]▶
Depending on your definition of "full access", you probably haven't truly had that for decades—on any broadly available computing system at least.
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1. saagarjha ◴[21 Oct 20 07:10 UTC] No.24845435[source]▶
Regardless of whether that want is feasible today, having something that gets closer to it is clearly the goal.
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2. sjwright ◴[21 Oct 20 09:43 UTC] No.24846188[source]▶
If that goal is important to you, I agree. I disagree that this should be declared as a universal goal for all people.